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Offline gazza

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id for school cap & pic date
« on: Friday 22 February 08 14:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi all ,firstly can I request some opinions on a date for this photo and second some help to identify the school cap/uniform. Difficult the latter I know,but perhaps there is a resource out there. I have no info on the individual ,just a hunch,which depends much on the date people think if my hunch is correct & looking at facial features. If it is who I suspect then the school concerned may be in Tottenham/Edmonton area.

Many thanks  :)
Gazza

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Re: id for school cap & pic date
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 23 February 08 01:22 GMT (UK) »
I know a school which currently uses that emblem, or one very much like it ~ but there could be a number that do or did:

http://www.stuvox.co.uk/kes/moodle/theme/kestheme/pix/blankcross.jpg

http://stuvox.co.uk/kes/moodle/index.php/KES%20today

Worcs / Glos: Neal Neale Jeynes Jeens Geans Harris Roper Ropier Colley Dyer Heeks Bayzand Hampton Bishop Cole Elton Littlehales McGowan
Glamorgam: Hampton Thornton Svombo Swambo Swanbo Keefe O Keefe Shanahan Shannon Doyle Maldoon Muldoon Davies Llewellyn Jones
Birmingham: Neale Sarjant Cole Hiley Berridge Tirebuck

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Re: id for school cap & pic date
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 23 February 08 01:28 GMT (UK) »
There's a bit here about Maltese crosses on rugby caps ~ school & sports teams
http://www.rugbyrelics.com/Museum/exhibitions/NR125/02.htm

There's a cap here, with a cross, but not the right one,  think:
http://www.archivist.f2s.com/bsu/boater/caps.htm

Tottenham Borough Council's coat of arms has a yellow cross ~ not a Maltese shape, though:
http://www.civicheraldry.co.uk/middlesex.html

I wondered if it might be Tottenham Grammar School, but the cap isn't the same.
But perhaps he is too young for senior school??
http://www.tgs-london.freeserve.co.uk/tgsgallery.htm
http://www.tgs-london.freeserve.co.uk/canhamsfirstday.htm
http://www.tgs-london.freeserve.co.uk/roberthayes.htm
Worcs / Glos: Neal Neale Jeynes Jeens Geans Harris Roper Ropier Colley Dyer Heeks Bayzand Hampton Bishop Cole Elton Littlehales McGowan
Glamorgam: Hampton Thornton Svombo Swambo Swanbo Keefe O Keefe Shanahan Shannon Doyle Maldoon Muldoon Davies Llewellyn Jones
Birmingham: Neale Sarjant Cole Hiley Berridge Tirebuck

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Re: id for school cap & pic date
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 23 February 08 01:42 GMT (UK) »
There isn't much else on there , to help.
WOOD in  Hunslet  area of Leeds , West Yorkshire
WOOD in Knottingley , West Yorkshire

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Re: id for school cap & pic date
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 23 February 08 12:19 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for replies guys. A bit tricky as I thought. :(

Here is a clearer blow up of hat. He also appears to have a striped tie.

Is this as late as 1930's?? Would it be as early as 1900??

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Re: id for school cap & pic date
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 23 February 08 12:31 GMT (UK) »

Date-wise - perhaps the shoes will give a clue?  They are shoes, not boots - when was it generally that shoes took over from boots for children?
Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott

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Re: id for school cap & pic date
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 23 February 08 15:16 GMT (UK) »
If you think you know the general area, how about contacting a local paper ~ or even local schools?
Worcs / Glos: Neal Neale Jeynes Jeens Geans Harris Roper Ropier Colley Dyer Heeks Bayzand Hampton Bishop Cole Elton Littlehales McGowan
Glamorgam: Hampton Thornton Svombo Swambo Swanbo Keefe O Keefe Shanahan Shannon Doyle Maldoon Muldoon Davies Llewellyn Jones
Birmingham: Neale Sarjant Cole Hiley Berridge Tirebuck

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Re: id for school cap & pic date
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 24 February 08 18:45 GMT (UK) »
Some good avenues to explore thanks.
Not sure about boots /shoes thing but a good way of looking at it.

Cheers
Gazza

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Re: id for school cap & pic date
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 24 February 08 21:04 GMT (UK) »
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