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Unusual name De Mamiel?
« on: Tuesday 26 February 08 08:33 GMT (UK) »
Dear Rootschatters.  :D 

I have found an unsual name in my tree.  De Mamiel,  my gg Aunt married a Thomas De Mamiel, born County Meath, Ireland.    Is this a common Irish name or is the birth in Ireland a one off event of a family from elsewhere ???? ???

Many thanks for any assistance
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Re: Unusual name De Mamiel?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 26 February 08 10:23 GMT (UK) »
Definitely not a common name in Ireland.  I think that names beginning with De are of Norman origin, e.g. DeBurgh, DeLacey, DeCourcey.

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Re: Unusual name De Mamiel?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 11 October 08 10:41 BST (UK) »
Roby,

It appears that all De Mamiel's descend from Captain Henri HOENER/HAENER (1802 - 1866) of France who married firstly Anna Maria Caroline SWIFT (1804 - 1849) of Ireland and secondly Sarah Emma MacDERMOTT (1816 - 1882).  Upon Henri's marriage to Anna Maria Caroline in Brighton ENGLAND in1833 he listed his surname as HOENER/HAENER de MAMIEL.  His father had married twice and his mothers maiden name was MAMIEL.  From this point the couple used DE MAMIEL as their surname and all 7 children ( and 3 from second marriage) were given the surname DE MAMIEL.  The boys all seem to have HOENER as their last christian name.  After the birth of their fist son in Belgium, HEnri & Anna moved to her families property in Ireland.

Would the Thomas DE MAMIEL you mention be Thomas Gordon Charles Hoener DE MAMIEL?  He was born in county Meath about 1845 and emigrated to Australia by 1863.  If so this would make your gg Aunt Catherine ROBESON.  This couple are my great great grandparents!

Are you able to share anything about the Robeson's?

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Re: Unusual name De Mamiel?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 12 October 08 03:36 BST (UK) »
Hi Helly Melly. 

Yes Catherine Robeson is my gg aunt.  My gg grandmother was her sister Elizabeth Robeson married Jonathon Cheesley. 

I do have some information on the Robeson's that I am willing to share.  If you let me know your email address I can contact you. 

I live near where the Catherine, John and Elizabeth Robeson were  born in Indigo near Barnwartha, Victoria. Australia.     Are you nearby?

Look forward to hearing from you. 

Cheers
Roby
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Re: Unusual name De Mamiel?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 12 October 08 10:16 BST (UK) »
HellyMelly won't be able to use the PM (personal message) system until making 3 posts (anti-spam measure) but after that she can send or get PMs.
Please use PMs to exchange email addresses and details of living people which shouldn't be posted online here.
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Unusual name De Mamiel?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 13 October 08 04:44 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the tip - re minimum posts!

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Re: Unusual name De Mamiel?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 13 October 08 04:46 BST (UK) »
Roby,

I am Sydney based - but grew up in Whitton NSW where Gordon (as he was known) and Catherine settled.

I will be in touch soon...

Helly Melly

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Re: Unusual name De Mamiel?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 23 January 10 12:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi Guys

Would love to touch base with you guys, I am descended from Henry Hoener de Mamiel - brother of Thomas gordon de Mamiel. He is my GG grandfather and he married Catherine Quirk

regards
Amanda
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Re: Unusual name De Mamiel?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 25 January 10 23:47 GMT (UK) »
Amanda,

I would be happy to touch base,  my connection to the DeMamiels is slim as my gg grandmothers sister Catherine Robeson married into the family.  However happy to be of help if I can

regards
Roby
Davis/Davies Wales
Moyle Cornwall
Edington Berwickshire
Fisher Kirkcudbrightshire
McLeod Skye
Louden, Greenhill,  Fife
Robeson Lancashire
Sharman  Northamptonshire
Simpson Westmorland
Symmons, Vincent Middlesex
Wealands Sunderland, Durham