1861/71 Census look up please

[Noreen Rose]

Again, you have come up with information about these ASHCROFTS I would never have discovered.  They seem such a disfunctional family!  The LINGWOODS are easier. 

The family story from my mother in law, was that her mother had been on the stage at some time!  As she married at 17 I thought it highly unlikely because she had a large family incuding one with Downs Syndrome!

I have found that Violet BROOKLYN has connections to Show Biz because her family are in 1881, in Gateshead Lodging in a Pub - Samuel BROOKLYN 30 and Minnie BROOKLYN 27 are Vocalists from Norwich, with daughters Florence 3 bn W Hartlepool and May 5.  Violet fits in with this family. 

It gets more interesting!!

Thank you so much for this help.

Noreen

Must get ready our eldest son is taking us out for lunch for Mothering Sunday.

Noreen
York

[yonderpeasant]

here is Andrew in 1861
18 Factory Yard Warrington RG9/2794/75a/41
Mary Burgess head wid 69 washerwoman             b.Lancs Warrington
Thomas Walmesley lodger wid 80 gardener            b         do
Thomas Usher            do un    21 vetinary surgeon   b  Northumberland Newcastle
Leicester Driver            do mar  32 blacksmith           b        Lancs Bolton
Andrew Ashcroft      visitor mar 24 bolt maker            b       Lancs Manchester
Mary Burgess        grdaur         7 scholar                 b                 do
   

[wozzle]

yonder peasant
just had a look at 1861 census on ancestry for andrew ashcroft and there appears to be two identical entries apart from one stating born 1837 and the other one stating born 1841
had a look at the actual image and it looks like 24 for his age
do you mind looking again and see what you think.

[wozzle]

possibly andrew in 1841
1841 HO107/583/5/34/24.
thomas ashcroft age 25. occ. cotton machinist.
jane ashcroft age 25.
mary ashcroft age 6.
james ashcroft age 4.
andrew ashcroft age 2.
living at ;cross street,hulme,manchester.
all born in county.

[yonderpeasant]

yes you are right.I have also rechecked it on origins and is 24.There is a sort of mark blocking it on the image but dont know why Ancestry have come up with two.There is another andrew ashcroft around very close in age which makes it difficult to go back further.I am hoping the Driver in the household is significant.

[wozzle]

marr 1856-1860
sarah driver-andrew ashcroft
st marys church birkenhead,
regd at the wirral,cheshire
taken from cheshire BMD

had a look on ancestry the year was 1857.

[wozzle]

cannot find andrew anywhere in 1851
there is one in bolton occ. coalman b. 1833 but that is the only one i can find

[Noreen Rose]

Wozzle

Thank you very much  for searching for Andrew ASHCROFT for me.  I have ordered the Marriage Certificate of Sarah DRIVER and Andrew ASHCROFT today.  This will give more information about him hopefully.  You have been so very helpful in breaking down brick walls for me with this research.

Thank you so much.

Noreen
York

[wozzle]

glad to be of help
if you don't mind when you receive the cert would you let us know what it says.