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McFarlane -Kincardine by Doune/in Menteith COMPLETED
« on: Saturday 01 March 08 19:24 GMT (UK) »
Hello
I am stuck (as they say in p1) and I'm hoping some of you kind folks can help me!
I will try to attach a photo of my gg gran, Isabella McFarlane.
My query relates to her father Daniel McFarlane. (Confusingly referred to as Donald on Isabella's death certificate!)
Donald/Daniel was born in Perthshire. I don't know where and I don't know when!
He married Janet Dow on 6 Jan 1822 at Kincardine by Doune. Both are stated to be parishioners. Janet was born on 11 Nov 1793 in Muthill, Perthshire. In the 1814 census she is living in Wood Lane, Kincardine with her parents William Dow and Jane Anderson and 7 siblings. She died on 7 Feb 1876 at Kirk Lane, Kincardine.
Donald/Daniel and Janet had 7 children.
Jane 1824
Alexander 1826
Isabella 1828 (she of the photo!)
Janet 1830
William 1832
Daniel 1835
Margaret 1837.
I would like to find out when Donald/Daniel was born, where, and who his parents were.
The only census I can find him on is 1841. According to that he was born in 1791. I can't see any likely candidates in the IGI.
In the 1851 census his wife is stated to be a "farmers widow" which suggests he died before 1851 - but when his son William married in June 1855 he is given as the father, and he is not stated to be "deceased"!
I can't find him in the 1814 census but I remember reading somewhere that when that was taken a lot of people were away from home doing seasonal work so perhaps he was one of them and his parents were on the moss in 1814?
I have been trying to find out more info about him for a couple of years now and am at a dead end.
Any ideas, anyone?
All thoughts gratefully received!
Val
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Re: McFarlane -Kincardine by Doune/in Menteith
« Reply #1 on: Friday 14 March 08 19:41 GMT (UK) »
hi valr

janet mcfarlane(dow) is as you say a widow by 1851
although david/daniel mcfarlane is not deceased on his son's marriage
cert. sometimes this info. was missed out(found this myself several times)
thought that margaret mcnaughton , living with the mcfarlane's in 1841 ,
might have been his mother using her maiden name but no joy
would the original entry for his 1822 marriage include parents ?
viewable on scotlandspeople but i've never used those records before so
i'm not too sure what it would show

ev
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Re: McFarlane -Kincardine by Doune/in Menteith
« Reply #2 on: Friday 14 March 08 20:24 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for looking Ev but unforunately his parents are not mentioned on the marriage doc- it just says they are both parishioners.... :(
He is variously referred to as Donald and Daniel - I have been banging my head against this brick wall for 2 years! :'(
Val
Scotland -McCall, King, Morrison, Thomson, Mcfarlane, Stewart, Dow, Jolly, Roberston, Christie, Mclaren, Campbell, McGregor
England - Roberts, Steel, Underhill, Brookes, Pope, Stump

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Re: McFarlane -Kincardine by Doune/in Menteith
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 21 May 08 16:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Vair from DDJJake ...

McFarlane folk interest me ... my fellow Grandad, Jim MacCallum's mother was a McFarlane of Kippen.

Yes, you have hit the 'black hole' that only gravestone searching may enlighten!

However, here are my hypotheses for you to 'chew-on' before contacting Perth Graveyard and Burial Service.

This may be a case of 'father hating' and thus, Daniel does not name a son after his probable father, James (from my hypotheses below)

Based on your report that,
Daniel and Janet had 7 children.
and on study of their NAMING PATTERN

Jane 1824 for Jane Anderson and possibly a sister of Daniel as well !

Alexander 1826** Father for Daniel possibly .... perhaps not !

Isabella 1828 ** Mother for Daniel probably  .... if not mother ...  a sister of Daniel?

Janet 1830 for Janet Dow herself

William 1832 for William Dow

Daniel 1835 for Daniel McFarlane himself

Margaret 1837  for a sister of Janet and  mother and sister of Daniel himself?

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After lots of searching back/forward/sideways etc.!!
I suggest, this family home for your elusive DANIEL ..

All the following were born to a James McFarlane ...no spouse listed on baptism in OPRs! [who is in fact a Margaret Kinross]

DANIEL MCFARLANE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 20 SEP 1789 Dunblane, Perth, Scotland
ISABEL MCFARLAND - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 27 NOV 1791 Dunblane, Perth, Scotland
DAVID MCFARLANE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 18 MAR 1798 Dunblane, Perth, Scotland
MARGT. MCFARLANE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 25 JAN 1800 Dunblane, Perth, Scotland
JEAN MCFARLANE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 31 JAN 1803 Dunblane, Perth, Scotland
 
JAMES MCFARLANE
  Male   Family
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Marriages:
  Spouse:  MARGT. KINROSS  Family
  Marriage:  23 MAR 1788   Dunblane, Perth, Scotland
 ~~~~~~~~
Messages:
 Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. 

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Re: McFarlane -Kincardine by Doune/in Menteith
« Reply #4 on: Monday 08 December 08 00:03 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your help! Gosh I cant believe I missed this reply so didnt thank you long before now!
Scotland -McCall, King, Morrison, Thomson, Mcfarlane, Stewart, Dow, Jolly, Roberston, Christie, Mclaren, Campbell, McGregor
England - Roberts, Steel, Underhill, Brookes, Pope, Stump

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Re: McFarlane -Kincardine by Doune/in Menteith
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 15 February 09 17:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi Valr,

I too am looking for McFarlanes in the Dunning area of Perthshire. So as not to confuse matters i don't think they are related to yours.  Can you tell me how you got info on the 1814 census please ?

Ailsa

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Re: McFarlane -Kincardine by Doune/in Menteith
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 15 February 09 18:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ailsa
I'm afraid the 1814 census only covers the Blair Drummond Moss area in Kincardine in Menteith.
It is available in a couple of places on the internet now I think. There is a good transcription on the Stewarts of Balquhidder website here is a link

http://www.chuckspeed.com/balquhidder/history/Blair_Drummond_Moss_Census_1814.htm
Scotland -McCall, King, Morrison, Thomson, Mcfarlane, Stewart, Dow, Jolly, Roberston, Christie, Mclaren, Campbell, McGregor
England - Roberts, Steel, Underhill, Brookes, Pope, Stump

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Re: McFarlane -Kincardine by Doune/in Menteith COMPLETED
« Reply #7 on: Monday 08 June 09 11:26 BST (UK) »
Hi, I have a Daniel McFarlane born in 1898 in Kilmadock. His father was Daniel (Donald) McFarlane and mother was Elizabeth Murdoch. Is this any help or have you found out what you wanted to know?

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Re: McFarlane -Kincardine by Doune/in Menteith COMPLETED
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 09 June 09 23:44 BST (UK) »
Thanks palaveram but I dont think I am connected to that family. Thanks anyway! I traced my lot back before the Moss to Balquhidder.
Val
Scotland -McCall, King, Morrison, Thomson, Mcfarlane, Stewart, Dow, Jolly, Roberston, Christie, Mclaren, Campbell, McGregor
England - Roberts, Steel, Underhill, Brookes, Pope, Stump