Elvina MARTIN

[Bryant]

St Leonards Colchester 1851
Pork Lane
John Martin  head  46   licensed hawker    london, middx
Ann       "      wife    47                                  "
William   "     son     9                                 colchester
Henry    "         "      6                                    "
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Hythe street
William Martin  head   88   pauper   formerly lighterman    colchester
Elizabeth   "     wife     75          laundress                               "
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Hythe street
James Martin   head  40   mariner     colchester
Elizabeth  "      wife    28                   wivenhoe
Martha      "     daur    7                        "
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Hythe street
John Martin    head   39   shipwright      east doneyland, essex
Susan E  "      wife     37   gen shopkeeper      colchester
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Hythe street
Charles Martin    visitor   21   mariner   Brightlingsea, Essex
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Hythe street
William H Garland   head   44   mariner    colchester
Sarah         "           wife     33                  Harwich
Sarah         "           daur     10                   colchester
ANN E MARTIN         DAUR    7                        "
William Garland        son     4                          "
Elizabeth   "             daur    1                         "
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Hythe street
James Martin   head   45   corn agent     colchester
Ann       "         wife     50                              "
James    "        son      20  warehouseman    "
George  "          "         16    sailmakers apprentice    colchester
Henry     "          "        10                                                "
Ellen      "         daur    12                                                "
Joseph   "      father     88  (widr) formerly mariner         "
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Hythe Quay
Joseph Martin  head   63   lighterman    colchester
Mary       "        wife     63   charwoman       "
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Hythe street
Harriet Martin    head   26  (wid)   tayloress       colchester
Joseph     "         son     8                                        "
William     "           "        7                                       "
John Potman    visitor    24   labourer                     "
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Hythe street
Susan Martin   head    75   pauper     colchester
Elisha     "    grandson  13   errand boy     "
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Hythe street
Joseph Martin    servant   17        colchester
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Back Lane
Isaac Martin   head    37   porter    colchester
Eliza     "        wife      37                      "
Isaac F "         son       10                      "
Charles  "         "          6                       "
Thomas H  "      "         2                         "
Harriet M   "     daur     8 months          "
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St Leonards finished

St Andrews Greenstead...NONE


COLCHESTER COMPLETE.....UNFORTUNATELY NO RECOGNISABLE ELVINA

Regards
Bryant
ps.  it could have been worse...I could have found her on the last page

[bearkat]

Hi Bryant,
  Many,many thanks for your extensive search.
  Shame she wasn't there but I least I know she wasn't in Colchester.
   Bearkat

[Bryant]

Bearkat

Iv'e spent some time on this one! so a little more doesn't matter

ELVINA...is that her real name?

when she married the records show her as ELVINA and then appears to be replaced with ELWINA (you can view that freely on the . section of freebmd...I think it was page 1327) 1860, June qtr, vol 2a, page 522, Medway...I know you have the cert, it's just what appears on the register!

In 1871 the census actually appears to indicate her name to be ELINA the same as her 1st born daughter......the name has all the same characteristics, the only difference being the dot of the I is further away!

In 1881 the transcribed census by LDS shows her name as ELINER NELSON (Iv'e taken a look at the original and it looks more like ELINA ? with a flashy finish to the a) heading towards ELEANOR!

Bryant

[bearkat]

Hi bryant,
  You're a star to keep plugging away at this.  I agree, the names of Elvina and her children are difficult to make out.  The 1871 census is difficult to read, the 1881 definitely says Elina (I wondered if this was a different way of spelling Eleanor) but the baptism of Sarah and Alice in 1860 definitely says Elvina.
  I know I will have to bear in mind all the possibilities.  My husband's grandmother was certainly Elvina.
bearkat

[Arquebus]

Well, that was fun reading that!......could it have been Elvira?

And just to chuck a spanner in the works I went to school with Trevor Martin in the 60's (he died in the 70s / early 80's.

He lived with his parents in Shrub End (a 'parish' in Colchester) which adjoined Berechurch......I believe they had origins in Lexden, which seems to be born out, because I knew another Martin family in Prettygate (another area) which I understood was related to the first lot.

Regards Alan

[bearkat]

  I have found the family in the 1861 census living at Old Pye Street, Westminster - I said they were movers!
  This time she is transcribed as Elonor.
bearkat

[Bryant]

bearkat

Just in case

I had a look for them at Old Pye Street (old and new) in the 1851 for Westminster, no sight of them i'm afraid.

Regards
Bryant

[bearkat]

  Thanks so much for looking for them in 1851-  shame they weren't there.
    The older children were born in Croydon so perhaps that's where I should look.

[bearkat]

Still looking for Elvina MARTIN in 1841 or 1851 census.

Bryant worked very hard searching for her last year but without success. 
Now the 1851 census in online I've looked for her in Essex, Croydon and everywhere else but still no luck.
Cere has looked at 1841 census for Essex and can't see her there either.

It's not helped that her christian name changes every time I find her.
She consistently says she was born in Colchester between 1826 -31
At her marriage she states that her father was John Abel MARTIN, deceased, shoemaker.

This is what I have found so far:
1855-57 living Croydon
1860 Elvina/Elwina aged 33yrs marriage to Charles NELSON St Paul’s, Chatham
1861 Elornor aged 30 living Old Pye St., Westminster
1871 Elina aged 45yrs living 9 Nelson Row, Clapham
1881 Eliner aged 54 yrs living 20 Meeting House Alley, St George in the East,
1889 Elvina aged 60 death Dec quarter

If anyone can find her I'd be so grateful.
bearkat