CROSS Family

[Helen1955]

I would love to know the connection between your family and mine.

As far as I know Charles and Eliza had two sons and a daughter. Their son John Charles was my Great, Great Grandfather. I have the marriage certificates for  both Charles and Eliza and for John Charles and Maria Croxall. Family story is that John Charles married Maria against his mother's wishes.

I have never been able to identify marriage certificates or death certificates for Charles and Eliza's other two children Edward and Isabel. Are you descended from one of them? Or maybe from one of John Charles and Maria's many children?

Maria had 4 children before she married John Charles, we presume, from family folk lore, they were all John's and 8 after they got married.

I was born and brought up in Studley Warwickshire. For a few months, between college and starting my nursing training I worked in one of the needle factories.

I would love to have a copy of the indenture and would happily pay for any costs would you be willing to send me a copy.

Regards
Helen

[Helen1955]

Sorry, just realised you had attached a transcript of the indenture to your post. Very kind of you.

I have found Charles in the 1851 census living in Redditch so he must have moved there shortly after his apprenticeship was completed.

Helen

[Dave9469]

My father was Isabel/Isabella Cross's only child.
AS a new member, I have to make three posts before being allowed to and a personal message.
When I have sent this (No.3) I will give more details in a personal message.
VERNON

[Gary Croxall]

Hi, my great grandfather is Frank Croxall. He was married to May Werrett. I can find lots of info about May but not Frank. Could Maria Croxall be his mum? Any help is appreciated.  Thanks

[Ladyhawk]

Hi, my great grandfather is Frank Croxall. He was married to May Werrett. I can find lots of info about May but not Frank. Could Maria Croxall be his mum? Any help is appreciated.  Thanks

Hello Gary welcome to Rootschat

This is an old post and it doesn’t look as if Helen has been on for sometime if her email is still active she should receive notification of these posts....

Do you have Frank’s marriage cert? If so, does it give a fathers name?

Do you know when /where he was born?

There is this Birth entry on GRO indexes the mmn is blank which would indicate ilegimate

CROXALL, FRANK       -     
1884  M Quarter in BROMSGROVE  Volume 06C  Page 399

Have you found them on 1939 register?

[Ladyhawk]

1881 RG11; Piece: 2942; Folio: 88; Page: 12
Maria Croxall has two sons their birth entry mmn blank

Croxall, HENRY   -   
 1877  D Quarter in BROMSGROVE  Volume 06C  Page 409      
      
CROXALL, CHARLES  EDWARD   -   
1879  D Quarter in BROMSGROVE  Volume 06C  Page 389      

by 1891 they have surname CROSS

RG12; Piece: 2348; Folio: 94; Page: 44

John Charles Cross   33
Maria Cross   32
Henry Cross   13
Charles Edward Cross   11
Fred Cross   9
Frank Cross   7
Walter Cross   5
Effie Cross   2
Baby Cross   

CROXALL, FRED   -   mmn blank
 1881  D Quarter in BROMSGROVE  Volume 06C  Page 393

CROXALL, FRANK       -     mmn blank
1884  M Quarter in BROMSGROVE  Volume 06C  Page 399

CROSS, EFFIE   mother maiden name CROXALL   
1889  M Quarter in BROMSGROVE  Volume 06C  Page 374      

CROSS, HARRIET   mmn    CROXALL     
1891  J Quarter in BROMSGROVE  Volume 06C  Page 407

CROSS, ISABEL    mmn   CROXALL     
1893  D Quarter in BROMSGROVE  Volume 06C  Page 372

CROSS, EDGAR   mmn    CROXALL 
1896  D Quarter in BROMSGROVE  Volume 06C  Page 390   

CROSS, ARTHUR  SIDNEY     mmn CROXALL     
1901  J Quarter in BROMSGROVE  Volume 06C  Page 379

CROSS, WILLIAM    mmn   CROXALL     
1903  S Quarter in BROMSGROVE  Volume 06C  Page 367

 

[Ladyhawk]

There appears to another person named Frank Cross born around same time (c1884) he’s on 1939 Register with Mary L Cross in Worcestershire

This could be their marriage

Frank Cross
1907   Oct-Nov-Dec Bromsgrove   Worcestershire Volume:   6c Page:   702
Other names on same page
Mary Lilian Malins
Ann Eliza Whitmore
Frank Banner

Do you know the occupation of your Frank?

[Gary Croxall]

Thanks Ladyhawk,

Frank Croxall was married to May Werrett, daughter of George Werrett. They had 4 children all Croxalls one being my Grandad Wilfred.

I've found this info below on Frank but can't seem to find his parents:

http://www.ritter.demon.co.uk/Genealogy/wga18.html#I3674

 

[Ladyhawk]

Thanks for the link

Croxall, Frank (1885 - 1964)
b. 26 JUL 1885 in Lancashire, England
d. 5 JUL 1964 in Llanelli, Dyfed, Wales
spouse: Werrett, May (1891 - 1964)

can’t post the details on 1939 register a different date/year of birth

I can’t find a corresponding birth entry for Frank Croxall/Cross on FreeBMD in Lancashire only the Bromsgrove one in 1884 

Do you have his birth or marriage certificate?