Uniform ID and dating please.

[littlefishlock]

I think this is probably a photo of a minature. There is some writing on the back that I cannot work out.  Can anyone help?

This topic was origanlly posted here

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,293922.0.html

Thanks in advance

[scrimnet]

Contrary to what has been said on the other board...(pse DO see my comments there...It appears you have someone VERY famous in your tree...)

This is an English officer of the 46th of Foot

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=46th+foot&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

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I would go with the late 18th century ideation and go for the American War of Independence...

With a name such as Surtees he should be quite easy to pin down and follow his career...

[littlefishlock]

Hi scrimnet.  I've been looking, but I dont really know what I'm looking for. I'm very new at this type of research and I'm still feeling my way about.  I only found out what an IGI batch number was a few days ago, so you can imagine how busy I've been.. lol.

I've got a feeling this chaps name might not be Surtees.  The reverse name does't look like it to me, although I cant tell what it says.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction

[nickgc]

The writing at the bottom might be the best clue.  Looks like some form of "Parkinson Millcroft" (Parkerson? Millsap?)
At top word is clearly "Wallis".
Middle looks like [something] "Mil group"

nick

[littlefishlock]

Hi nick, thanks for your imput. I'll look for someone on those lines.

[nickgc]

Hi again.  I should have mentioned that I had done some looking, but no success.

I think the best thing would be to look at/develop  the Surtees tree.  Some people have partial ones on the web.
(example:  http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=militarycaste&id=I50463 )
It looks like Robert Smith Surtees was one of 8 children of Anthony Surtees, who was himself a son of Robert Surtees.

This Robert Surtees appears to have written a 4 volume work on the History of Durham, and perhaps looking at this would shed some light on the portrait of interest.  An encyclopedia article on Robert Surtees says that he collected antiquities and genealogical data for his work.

Nick

[ev]

hi all 

the surtees were highborn/ famous but i think it's going to take a major
investigation to track down the family
what a shame this woman struggled through her final years , although she did
have a certain class 
wealth tends to in a straight line downwards while those on the edges can get
nothing and yet you wonder what happened to her
after the first world war many women never married because so many men had
been killed
i think this would have had a greater effect on upper class ladies , to find
a good husband/any husband that could support them
i take nothing away from those lower down the social scale(eg me  ) who suffered as well

ev

ps i didn't suffer i'm just lower down the social scale 

[ev]

hi

so is this a photograph ?
it does look like a miniature portrait that was photographed then cut out
losing most of the info. in the process 
you think it would be sent to the lady in question and then she cut it out
and kept it(or got it as it was)

ev 

[Lones]

Hi could it be "Major Wallis" and you can just see the jor before the Wallis?  I have no idea of rank etc, but does it look like a major uniform?  I think if anyone has the ability to search the English military records they may find a Major Wallis of the correct time frame. 

I am useless at research so afraid I can't help you much, but you can have my two cents worth for free 

Good luck with it

Lones