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Offline Andy May

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1901 Census - BerSt , Norwich - FRANCIS / WOOLNER
« on: Monday 24 March 08 20:49 GMT (UK) »
I've looked and I've looked til I'm cross-eyed but can't find the low
numbered residences of Ber St , Norwich in 1901 Census.
Found plenty of high numbers but I'm looking for 20 - 40 area . Anyone know
Piece / Folio / Page ref(s) please ?

Particularly looking for the elusive FRANCIS family (William b 1853 & Sarah
b 1851 nee WOOLNER) - they were at 9 Fox and Hounds Yard (off Ber St) in
1891 and the same address is given on the death certificate of their teenage
daughter Amelia in Jan 1901 .... but they ain't there in the Census a few
months later . But I have an inkling they didn't move far away .....

Any help always appreciated , thank you .

Andy


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Re: 1901 Census - BerSt , Norwich - FRANCIS / WOOLNER
« Reply #1 on: Monday 24 March 08 21:05 GMT (UK) »
Did you see the death registration for a William Francis born 1853 in Norwich in 1894.

Was Amelia's death registered by the mum?

Just a thought

Tricia
Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi

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Re: 1901 Census - BerSt , Norwich - FRANCIS / WOOLNER
« Reply #2 on: Monday 24 March 08 21:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi Tricia ! Thanks for the reply - and so quickly !

YES and YES in answer to your questions .
Not sure if that's MY William - maybe the Census will help confirm it.
I'm hoping to find mother of Amelia , (Sarah) , 12 yr old son William and more importantly my great-grand-dad John , who would've been about 20 ( b Trowse 1881)

Cheers
Andy
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« Reply #3 on: Monday 24 March 08 21:58 GMT (UK) »
Can't spot William, William or Sarah :'(

Seems odd all 3 are missing.

I'll have a look for the other one


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Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi


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Re: 1901 Census - BerSt , Norwich - FRANCIS / WOOLNER
« Reply #4 on: Monday 24 March 08 22:34 GMT (UK) »
Forgot to say - Welcome to Rootschat, Andy :)

Not doing too well for you - my eyes are now crossing as well

Can't find any of them

Anyone else looking???


Tricia
Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi

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« Reply #5 on: Monday 24 March 08 22:43 GMT (UK) »
This is dreadful.

She appears to die in 1903 so where is she in 1901.

Possibly dittoed under a different surname. :o


Do you know John's occupation at all - could he be away somewhere?


Tricia

Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi

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Re: 1901 Census - BerSt , Norwich - FRANCIS / WOOLNER
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 30 March 08 19:53 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all this looking , Tricia - nice to know there's more eyes out there !

The full family should consist of :

Sarah FRANCIS (b abt 1851)
William  FRANCIS (b abt 1850 but poss d 1894 , as per earlier post .
Previous Occupations showns as General Labourer)
John FRANCIS (b 1881) - possibly a Carman or Cabman (m cert 1906) or Ostler (b cert 1912) or similar labourer ?
William FRANCIS (b abt 1889)

I don't think that WOOLNER is a particularly common name and in 1900 Jarrold's Directory of Norfolk there's a Carrier (Horse Drawn , I assume ?) named Woolner doing the Loddon run Mon , Wed , Fri & Sat from the Kings Arms , Ber St  . I'll check for poss' relationship to Sarah later.

Sarah had a couple of other children "prior to marriage" and they've been documented as Albert Woolner (b 1874) , Ellen Woolner (b 1876) & Annie Woolner (b 1880) . By 1901 the girls could be married but I would've thought Albert should be around ?

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Re: 1901 Census - BerSt , Norwich - FRANCIS / WOOLNER
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 30 March 08 20:04 BST (UK) »
Albert Woolner is in Norwich in 1901.
Albert E Woolner, 26, gen lab., b. Trowse Newton
Mary Ann Woolner, 21, Norwich,
Mary M Woolner, 1, Norwich,

living with Mary Ann's mother Martha Mix.

Desperately seeking:
Martha Ann Keily - Limerick/Woolwich mid 1800s
Mary Jane Hawkins - Bridgwater c.1835
George Gulson - Warmfield or Mansfield 1790s

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Re: 1901 Census - Ber St , Norwich - FRANCIS / WOOLNER
« Reply #8 on: Monday 31 March 08 17:13 BST (UK) »
Looks you found him , Icsnor !
Thanks for that !
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