1841 Census Lookup for Brighton please

[Roy G]

Did you notice that one of the watchmakers in 1833 was a Philip Wymark of New Road.  Wonder whether there is a connection between him and Edward's second wife, Caroline Weymark?  Have you got a cerificate for Edward's second marriage showing Caroline's father's occupation or is that the document you are waiting for?

Roy G

[AndyFunnell]

Yes, I wondered about that. I'm waiting for back numbers of a specialist magazine that ran articles on Edward in the 1970s.

[Roy G]

IGI has Caroline's baptism (not birth) in Brighton (not Pevensey) in 1825.  Her parents were Phillip & Mary.   This may not be where Edward served his apprenticship, but he certainly seems to have married a watchmakers daughter

Roy G

[AndyFunnell]

Yes, but she gains a middle name, Taylor, which I've seen nowhere else. I guess the certificate will become a must.

[Roy G]

Try to find her with the Wymarks on the 41 census.

Her father Phillip seems to be well documented on the IGI
His birth, baptism, marriage and even death are recorded there.

Sussex Family History Group members interests seem to show no Pevensey Wymarks, but there were some in the adjoining village of Westham.  Perhaps Caroline was being a bit pedantic on the censuses, because her mother may have been sent to the grandparents when the birth was due.  Whatever, the Wymarks seem to be a good place to start when you start searching for indentures.

Roy G

[AndyFunnell]

Even though there are no Carolines, there are several Weymarks in Pevensey both on the IGI and Rootsweb.

[Roy G]

The Brighton Watchmaker Phillip Wymark died in Brighton in March quarter 1867. (FreeBMD)  As a former businessman, presumably he left a will and his daiughter Caroline and her husband may have inherited something.  There may be something in the text of a bequest that could help place Edward with the firm during his early years.
Roy

[Roy G]

Bit of Background on the Brighton watchmaker Phillip Wymark.

He was always living in New Road and initially had 3 daughters.
Mary Ann      Bapt St Nicholas 1823
Emma           bapt St Nicholas 1824
Caroline Taylor bapt St Nicholas 1825
His first son was Robert Henry Wymark, who arrived much later for his baptism was in St Nicholas in 1835.

By 1851, Phillip Wymark's watchmaker's shop at 7 New Road had been taken over by a gunsmith.  Have yet to find what happened to his son or to Phillip the watchmaker to establish whether he had retired or not, but it could be that Phillip passed on his business to his apprentice through the marriage to one of his daughters.
Roy G

[AndyFunnell]

OK, I've cracked and ordered the certificate.
I wonder why Edward would have been inspired to construct such a small watch unless he'd acquired skills/ideas during his apprenticeship. Joseph Weisser made at least one small clock and his family name is linked to this speciality so he seems to fit the bill. He also seems to have abandonned clockmaking (Folthorpe 1839 - 108 Edward Street) for beerselling (Kelly's 1867 - 68 Edward Street).

Edward's son Charles has turned up in the 1881 census as a watchmaker lodging in Albion Street.
Nothing conclusive on son Edward.