CREARY, Westmoreland

[arcwest]

hi again
A deborah rawcliff died ulv4/4 1844 and a william rawcliff died 3/4 1844 ulverston
are these 2 Capt.William's mum and dad ? i wonder,will need certs to be sure
Re the 1841 census this may be them as they didn't put in relationships and with ages only  to the nearest 5 yrs
cheers

[arcwest]

hi, 1841 census would make sense grandma deborah living with dau in law Hannah,dau Ann ,dau Dinah,daughter margaret's child deborah and henry and Jane's 2 ..william and Elizabeth
The ages tally approximately
A handy place to live for a shipping family!
Thanks again 

[Radcliff]

Hello no I couldn't find Joseph in 1851 either but I will look again for him today ,I see he is in Kendal 1871 and 1881,Temperance Hall with his mother and father in law.and you said he died 1884,poor children ,and in 1861 he is with his dad onboard their schooner.

[arcwest]

Hi,At last details from certificates
april 19 1840 william rawcliff married hannah creary at parish church ulverston wm's father william ,a husbandman
Hannah,s father joseph, a mariner
William living sunderland tce and hannah rotten row
witnesses nancy brownrigg and thomas Gaulker
Joseph's birth certificate
born 22/7/1844 father william Rawcliff,master mariner.
mother hannah rawcliff formerly creary
informant mother residing at Ellers ulverston
William Rawcliffe death cert 17/8/1868 @Tarnside ulverston  aged 60,master mariner
notified by Sarah Lucy Rawcliffe present at death [not sure who S.L.R. is yet ]
Hannah ratcliff death cert 4 /2/1851 at fountain street ulverston,aged 40 yrs wife of william ratcliff master mariner         
informant william ratcliff fountain st ulverston
This should identify the correct joseph creary ....hopefully....
regards

[arcwest]

Hi found creary's in rotten row 1841 but no joseph (HO107/531/12)
elizabeth aged 40 john 17 and ann13
Had joseph died or was he at sea
cheers

[Radcliff]

Elizabeth Creary of the 1841 census Ratten Row is still there in 1851,she is a grocer born Troutbeck Westmorland.She is a widow,

Also further down the row is an unmarried Joseph Creary born Ulverston circa 1807,his niece Ann is his housekeeper,

Nancy Brownrigg marries Thomas Gaulker,her father is a ships broker.

[Radcliff]

Nancy and Thomas Gaulter, were very close friends of Hannah and William,Hannah and her husband also are in Ratten Row in 1841,with Nancys father Joseph Brownrigg,


looking further back I found this marriage John Gaulter to Agness Rawcliff,
St Chads Poulton Le Flyde ,23 rd of September 1806,
I wonder if they are actualy related,

[Radcliff]

William Ratcliff
 buried St Cuthberts Aldingham,by John Stonard
11 Th of July 1820 aged 40
,abode Baycliff,


William,Rockcliff,
buried 28Th of January 1810,
a yeoman aged 60 of Baycliff,

ElizabeTh 9th of February 1818 also of Baycliff,aged 68 years,

[arcwest]

looks like i'll have to chech the aldingham registers
Thanks for the info
looks like this may be capt william's grandparents .......now searching for the marriage
Would yeoman suggest he rented a farm which begs the question where did he work before
was there a hiring fair in dalton then or was it in ulverston??