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Can I ask ?? .....
« on: Wednesday 09 April 08 03:17 BST (UK) »

Is there such a thing as an Indian census ??

I was reading an article ... and it mentioned the Indian census !!  :-\

Thanking you in advance !!

Annie  :)

Edit ...... wouldn't you know it .... as soon as I ask ... I find them ??!!

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/census2/index.htm

but hard to read !!  :P
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Re: Can I ask ?? .....
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 04:07 BST (UK) »


Maybe I should be more specific .... 'cos I really don't know what I'm talking about .....  ::) ::)

I'm looking for Red Shirt ......

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Red Shirt (OGLE LUTA) was born on "Platte River" in a village near Fort Fetterman (Wyoming), in Wagluhe (Loafers) band, Oglala subdivision of Sioux Tribe.
He wasn't at the Little Big Horn during the famous battle though he was often associated with chief Three Bears band.
He was always a peace-chief, and he participated in 1870 and 1880 at two delegations in Washington.
He officially became a chief in 1878 at Pine Ridge Agency.
In 1887 he joined in Buffalo Bill's "Wild West Show" and also visited Europe with the show. He died in 1925

but I'm confused ...... because he was supposed to be the same tribe as Sitting Bull - and he was of the Hunkpapa Souix ..... are they the same ??  ::)
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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 05:21 BST (UK) »


Well I just found this information that I posted on the other thread .... heres the link !! ( just in case anybodys interested !!  ::) ::) ::) )

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,296911.30.html

Annie  :)
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« Reply #3 on: Friday 11 April 08 01:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Annie!!   is there still a question to be answered here??

Yes,  there are Indian Census and they are searchable for 1885-1940.  I have no clue if these a complete by any means.  My guess is probably not!

The census dates do not directly correspond to the other established census dates   -- 1904 and 1931, for example

There are 56 hits for "Red Shirt"  in some form or another  ---   primarily in  Arizona (Navajo, Hopi & Paiute Tribes).  A handful n South Dakota, the Pine Ridge Tribe/area, and (1) Navajo tribesman from Utah.

Searching for Ogle Lute produced zero hits.

 :) :) :)
lissa
 

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« Reply #4 on: Friday 11 April 08 01:44 BST (UK) »


Hi Lissa !

Like I said ... if I knew what I was talking about ... I'd be dangerous !!  ::) ::) ::)

What I'm REALLY looking for - is Red Shirt and his family .... I know he was born near Douglas Wyoming ... apparently of a white father and Lakota mother !! ...... but then ...... everything gets all mixed up .... so I thought if I could find him on a census ... all would be revealed !!  :o :o ( silly me huh ?? ) I would also like to find out if he was married at all .... he had a few children I believe ! ... ( I have no idea of names or details  )

Pretty impossible really isn't it ??  ???
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« Reply #5 on: Friday 11 April 08 01:49 BST (UK) »
probably pretty impossible  ....  let me mess around some more....

may have to be tomorrow night as I am fast approaching beddy bye hour......unless of course,  I get obsessed in looking for Red Shirt   ::)

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« Reply #6 on: Friday 11 April 08 01:59 BST (UK) »



Heres a warrior  ... to tempt you maybe ...... !!   ::)



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« Reply #7 on: Friday 11 April 08 02:06 BST (UK) »
78,000 persons enumerated in Wyoming Indian Censuses.   Nothing coming us for Red Shirt  or  Ogle Lute.

Wondering if his father was white, would they be in the "regular" census .... BUT without a name -----   aiyiyi!!

Douglas WY is in Converse Co. and on the North Platte River.  In 1900,  only 900 people.   What year(s) do you want to explore??    

Also, if they lived near and not in Douglas.......  ::)

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« Reply #8 on: Friday 11 April 08 02:07 BST (UK) »
WOW!   Impressively handsome, isn't he  :o :o :o
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