marriage or death lookup please

[deeiluka]

Of course one can't say absolutely for sure, Margaret......but it does look that way to me.....and we do know that Selina seemed to roam in more ways than one......     

Will be good if you can swap......fingers crossed for you....


Hope what we've found does help the Rosetta researcher!

.....dee

[little meg]

thanks Dee,
yeah, I know, can never be certain of any certificate .
Hopefully all will be well, will let you know when they arrive.

Margaret

[little meg]

Transcription for Samuel Truefoot Cater has arrived, details as follows:

When and where: 16th April, 1855,. Moor Street, Collingwood
Name and Surname: Samuel Truefoot Cater
Sex and age: Male 2 years and 10 months
Cause of death and duration: Phthisis - 3 months - Certified
Medical attendant - NA
fathers name: Frederick Cater - Labourer
mothers name - Selina Carbis
Informant - The X mark of Mary Carbis - Grandmother, present at death, moor st, Collingwood.
registration details - NA
Burial details: 17th April, 1855, Melbourne General Cemetery
where born, Collingwood
how long in  Australian colonies: 2 years and 10 months.

Thats it!

Well the only thing this does is verify that it is the right family ie grandma, Mary Carbis etc. She must have been living in the family home or grandma was living with her at time of childs death.

I have a book on Melbourne Gen Cemetery will have a look and see if there is anything else noteworthy.

I have also managed to change the other transcription for death of Selena Hall.

Margaret

[deeiluka]

Sorry I have been slow to answer, Margaret. I had a couple of days offline.

That was excellent service with the transcription for Samuel Truefoot Cater. I really must get around to sending her all the bits and pieces I have got.

Now to wait for the other transcription.....


.....dee

[little meg]

Hi all,
Finally death transcription for Selina Hall has arrived.
However . . . the lack of info tends to be more confusing that ever

It states:

name: Selina Hall
d of d : 19th Feb 1883
place: Deniliquin, NSW
occupation: Charwoman
sex: Female
age: 52
conjugal status: no details given
place of birth: Penzance, Cornwall, England
time in Aust. colonies: not known
father: unknown
occupation: unknown
mother: unknown
place of marriage: no details given
age at marriage: no details given
name of spouse: no details given
children of marriage: no details given
informant: Mary de Custer, neighbour, Deniliquin
cause of death: disease of the heart
length of illness: unknown
Medical attendant: A W Noyes
date last seen: 19th Feb 1883
place of burial: Deniliquin
undertaker: H L Elliot
witnesses: Robert May, R Banfield

From this all I can surmise is that by the age of 52, Selina was on her own, hubby left her, children either died or old enough to be on their own or taken in by someone else.
The fact that a neighbour found her  adds to this theory.
Also being a charwoman, I imagine she made ends meet by cleaning for others.

Strange that the neighbour knew nothing of her children, perhaps she did not have much to do with them, the neighbours that is, and her children for that matter.

One can imagine all kinds of things I guess and I don't think I will ever learn the truth.
She is not listed in Deniliquin cemetery, so perhaps a paupers grave.
Might see if the Deniliquin history society have her listed in the local paper, it is indexed so shouldn't be a problem and only costs a few dollars.

Thanks for all your help on this mystery,

Margaret

[MarieC]

Oh what a shame, Margaret!

And I feel sorry for Selina - dying alone with no-one who knew anything about her close by. 

Good idea to see if there is any mention in the local paper.  Let us know if you find anything there.  It is likely to be a sad report, if there is! 

MarieC

[little meg]

hi MarieC,
yes, I am starting to feel sorry for poor Selina. 
What I cannot understand is, the father of one of her children, Charles Overend, my relo, was living in Deniliquin then.
You would think he would have at least had some kind of decency and been there for her in some way.
Oh, those relo's of mine, shame, shame, shame 

Margaret

[MarieC]

Yes, Margaret!

Of course, we don't know the extent of disagreement or downright bitterness between the two.  Still, you might think he would have seen that she had a proper burial!

MarieC

[deeiluka]

It seems she led a very hard life, Margaret, and made ends meet the best way she could, one way or another.   

But we've got no further in your quest to find more information about Alfred Carbis.

It is looking more and more likely that  he was "adopted" as a child and had a change of name.....


.....dee