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Re: My ABBAY/ABBEY family went to Russia c.1838 !!
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 10 November 09 19:39 GMT (UK) »
Dear Mike

This is incredible information that you are finding.

Thank you
It is greatly appreciated

As Matveev means son of Matvey (thankyou for that) does Matveeich mean the same or something slightly different?

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BERRY-Wexford, Ireland>England
BERNEY- Tullowbeg, Co. Carlow
MUSTY- Oxfordshire>Wiltshire>India
PUFFITT-Filkins,Oxfordshire
HARNESS- EastRiding,Yorks. & Lincolnshire
LANE- India
STOLLERY-Suffolk
HERCLIFF -East Riding, Yorks

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Re: My ABBAY/ABBEY family went to Russia c.1838 !!
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 10 November 09 19:52 GMT (UK) »
Matveevich means the same:  Vasiliy Matveev Abbey  =  Vasiliy Abbey, the son of Matvey = Vasiliy Matveevich Abbey

I sent a message and already received reply from this Ryazan' town. They have not heard the name, but promised to make a search.

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Re: My ABBAY/ABBEY family went to Russia c.1838 !!
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 10 November 09 20:18 GMT (UK) »
Matveevich means the same: Vasiliy Matveev Abbey = Vasiliy Abbey, the son of Matvey = Vasiliy Matveevich Abbey

thank you...  I understand now.  :)

It was extremely kind of you to send a message to the Ryazan town and also very kind of them say they would do a search.  Hope they find something.

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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
BERRY-Wexford, Ireland>England
BERNEY- Tullowbeg, Co. Carlow
MUSTY- Oxfordshire>Wiltshire>India
PUFFITT-Filkins,Oxfordshire
HARNESS- EastRiding,Yorks. & Lincolnshire
LANE- India
STOLLERY-Suffolk
HERCLIFF -East Riding, Yorks

RIP 2012

ABBAY/ABBEY Yorkshire to St.Petersburg Russia

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Re: My ABBAY/ABBEY family went to Russia c.1838 !!
« Reply #21 on: Monday 23 November 09 18:20 GMT (UK) »
Hello Myfi,

No reply yet from Ryazan town, but meantime have found another bit:

from the Minutes of Morshansk county committee on Agricultural industry, sittings on 20 and 21st August 1902:

present: ..... V. V. Abbey - member of the Agricultural Society.

This V.V. Abbey seems to be grandson of Mathew Abbey and son of Vasiliy Matveevich Abbey

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Re: My ABBAY/ABBEY family went to Russia c.1838 !!
« Reply #22 on: Monday 23 November 09 18:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mike

Many thanks for that.

He is possibly the chap I've found on a passenger list as a Refugee from Russia arriving in the UK in 1920. (William ABBEY age 52)


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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
BERRY-Wexford, Ireland>England
BERNEY- Tullowbeg, Co. Carlow
MUSTY- Oxfordshire>Wiltshire>India
PUFFITT-Filkins,Oxfordshire
HARNESS- EastRiding,Yorks. & Lincolnshire
LANE- India
STOLLERY-Suffolk
HERCLIFF -East Riding, Yorks

RIP 2012

ABBAY/ABBEY Yorkshire to St.Petersburg Russia

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Re: My ABBAY/ABBEY family went to Russia c.1838 !!
« Reply #23 on: Monday 23 November 09 19:06 GMT (UK) »
Just found in one Russian book published in 1893 that at this time M.V. Abbey was an assistant to the estate manager at  the estate of Count Pashkov, village Vitoshkino, Sergachskiy uyezd (district), Nizhnegorodskaya guberniya (province). Coordinates N 55 17' E 45 03'

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Re: My ABBAY/ABBEY family went to Russia c.1838 !!
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 31 January 10 10:02 GMT (UK) »
I have noticed that in Russian documents William had the Russian form Vasily.

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Re: My ABBAY/ABBEY family went to Russia c.1838 !!
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 31 January 10 13:32 GMT (UK) »
More really useful info.  Thank you so much. 

One question - if Vasily is William, is Matvey and other forms of it, Matthew?

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Re: My ABBAY/ABBEY family went to Russia c.1838 !!
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 31 January 10 16:00 GMT (UK) »
Hello tiggertwo,
We seem to look for same family.
William Abbey and Eleanor Lee had several children.  Among which there were at least two daughters Lily and Mary. Among sons Walter, William, Matthew and Alfred
I have heard that Alfred went to Boer War, stayed in Africa and then lived in the Midlands.
Mary was married to Thomas Pollock, Lily was married to an Englishman and they lived in Russia.
Walter lived also in Russia with his family.
Orenberg - do you mean the town in Russia south of the Urals Orenburg?

Matvey is Russian for Matthew.