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Re: My ABBAY/ABBEY family went to Russia c.1838 !!
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 23:09 GMT (UK) »
Forgot to add that my Abbey family also originated from Yorkshire.  The story passed down the generations is that they came from Selby.

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Re: My ABBAY/ABBEY family went to Russia c.1838 !!
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 05 November 09 09:41 GMT (UK) »
Hello tiggertwo  :)

I haven't come across the names you mention but as I haven't been able to find anything much on a couple of Matthew's sons it's possible that your family may be descended from one of them.

Matthew's sons:

George  b.1816 Burstwick, married Alice Jordan in 1838 Patrington, then disappears

William  b.1819 Burstwick, married Eleanor Lee in 1851 St. Petersburg, one child found -Mary b.1861 St. Petersburg

A great nephew of my Matthew also seems to have gone to Russia -

George Fairbank Abbey  b.1841 Burstwick married Sophie Ehren 1862 St. Petersburg

any of these names mean anything to you?

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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
BERRY-Wexford, Ireland>England
BERNEY- Tullowbeg, Co. Carlow
MUSTY- Oxfordshire>Wiltshire>India
PUFFITT-Filkins,Oxfordshire
HARNESS- EastRiding,Yorks. & Lincolnshire
LANE- India
STOLLERY-Suffolk
HERCLIFF -East Riding, Yorks

RIP 2012

ABBAY/ABBEY Yorkshire to St.Petersburg Russia

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Re: My ABBAY/ABBEY family went to Russia c.1838 !!
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 07 November 09 19:32 GMT (UK) »
Hello Myfi: 

Thanks for the info. I'll try and follow up on the two leads you've given me.  I need to check where Burstwick is. I'll let you know if I get anywhere.  My family lived in the St. Petersburg area for several generations prior to the Revolution.  The family story is that my ggggrandfather took the first mechanical plough out to Russia but this could just be a legend.

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Re: My ABBAY/ABBEY family went to Russia c.1838 !!
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 07 November 09 23:18 GMT (UK) »

Hi Tiggertwo

Have sent you a personal message  (click on messages to read)

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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
BERRY-Wexford, Ireland>England
BERNEY- Tullowbeg, Co. Carlow
MUSTY- Oxfordshire>Wiltshire>India
PUFFITT-Filkins,Oxfordshire
HARNESS- EastRiding,Yorks. & Lincolnshire
LANE- India
STOLLERY-Suffolk
HERCLIFF -East Riding, Yorks

RIP 2012

ABBAY/ABBEY Yorkshire to St.Petersburg Russia

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Re: My ABBAY/ABBEY family went to Russia c.1838 !!
« Reply #13 on: Monday 09 November 09 21:15 GMT (UK) »
Hello Tiggertwo,

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The family story is that my ggggrandfather took the first mechanical plough out to Russia but this could just be a legend.
Maybe not a legend:

From 'The review of various sectors of manufacturing in Russia' vol. ii, page 75:

List of mechanical plants in Russia by regions and sectors:

72. Abbey, St. Petersburg, agricultural machinery and work tools
'The review of various sectors of manufacturing in Russia' St. Petersburg, 1867, vol. ii, page 75

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Re: My ABBAY/ABBEY family went to Russia c.1838 !!
« Reply #14 on: Monday 09 November 09 21:48 GMT (UK) »
'Index to St. Peterburg's exhibition of manufactures of Russian Empire', St. Peterburg, 1849, page 45:

No 285.    ABBEY (Foreign subject Vasiliy Matveev) in St. Peterburg
Plough; cultivator; double harrow; thresher on wheels; winnowing machine; model of roller with wooden drum

Matveev - son of Matvey (Mathew)

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Re: My ABBAY/ABBEY family went to Russia c.1838 !!
« Reply #15 on: Monday 09 November 09 21:56 GMT (UK) »
Another one, from "Delovoy Peterburg" (Peterburg Business newspaper) No. 203 (1545) dd.  30.10.2003:

At the V All-Russia Exhibition of manufacturing in St. Petersburg in 1861, Baltiysky and Nevsky plants got their first small gold medals, Wilkins and Shaw - small silver medals. In addition, Ashworth-Stephens, Thornton, and Vasiliy Matveyevich Abbey received  the 'public praise' (Vassily Matveyevich remaining the subject of the British Crown, had a facility for the production of agricultural machinery at the 11-verst  of Peterhof trakt (highway), he worked in Russia and for Russia).

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Re: My ABBAY/ABBEY family went to Russia c.1838 !!
« Reply #16 on: Monday 09 November 09 22:42 GMT (UK) »

Mike

Gosh, this is really great stuff that you have found for us.


Thank you so much  :-*

Myfi
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
BERRY-Wexford, Ireland>England
BERNEY- Tullowbeg, Co. Carlow
MUSTY- Oxfordshire>Wiltshire>India
PUFFITT-Filkins,Oxfordshire
HARNESS- EastRiding,Yorks. & Lincolnshire
LANE- India
STOLLERY-Suffolk
HERCLIFF -East Riding, Yorks

RIP 2012

ABBAY/ABBEY Yorkshire to St.Petersburg Russia

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Re: My ABBAY/ABBEY family went to Russia c.1838 !!
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 10 November 09 18:15 GMT (UK) »
- Vasiliy Matveevich Abbey died in 1894 (Report of Imperial Free Economic Society for 1894, published in 1895).

'...Favorable review of Johnston reaping machine from two farmers of Sapozhkovskiy region of Ryazan province ... According to Mr. Abbey, in his estate harvesting machine reaped, rye, oats, mustard and other cereals pure and irreproachable. Cut crop was thrown off the platform smoothly, clearly and in sheaves of random size.  62 desyatins (acres) were reaped without any damage and knives need not to be sharpened...'
(Papers of Imperial Free Economic Society, 1873)

So, Abbey should be searched in Ryazan province too (I have only 1894 address book and there is no record of him)