Samuel Andrews - Hatfield Broad Oak 1804

[m123]

Thanks for the children's names. It looks pretty certain that your Samuel married Mary Bowers and had the children you mention but far less certain that he was the son of Mordecai A and Hannah L, unless I am missing something.
For example there is another Samuel Andrews who married Sarah Cade and gave his birthplace as Colchester. Now Hatfield Broad Oak and Colchester are about equidistant from Bocking (Braintree) where Mordecai III and Hannah L's son was presumably born, so the only reason to prefer one to the other is the use of Mordecai as a second name.
But IGI gives the births of ten Mordecai Andrews as follows, so the name doesn't necessarily come from Mordecai III.

Year   Place   Father   Mother   Possible Identity
1669                                Mordecai I's father
1715                                           Mordecai I
1740   Bocking                           Mordecai II
1762   C'geshall   John      
1774   Stepney   Mordecai   Hannah   
1780   C'geshall   Mordecai   Elizabeth   Mordecai III
1786   Terling   Mordecai   Hannah   
1786   Bocking   John   Martha   
1795   Bocking   Mordecai   Hannah   
1823   B Stortf'd   Richard   Sarah   

Sorry for the alignment - it's fine on what I pasted in but not on the preview but I hope it's intelligible. Only the last of these Hannahs seems likely to be Hannah Litchfield. What do you think?
Mike

[cep]

Marriages at Braintree, St Michael the Archangel     D/P 264/1/8


1784, Jan 15
Mordecai Andrews, Bachelor, of this Parish, and
Hannah Litchfield, Spinster, of this Parish also.

by Banns           Mordecai and Hannah both signed

Wit: Thomas Litchfield, Martha Bush   both signed



1785, Jul 7
Mordecai Andrews, Bachelor, of this Parish, and
Hannah May, Spinster, of this Parish also

by Licence          Mordecai and Hannah both signed

Wit: Mary May, Thomas Tunbridge    both signed



IGI   Batch C067101    Independent, Bocking, Essex

Hannah Andrews      b. 3 Mar 1785   bap. 23 May 1785
Parents: Mordecai Andrews & Hannah

Joseph Andrews      b. 30 Dec 1786  bap. 14 May 1787
Parents: Mordecai Andrews & Hannah

James Andrews       b. 19 Mar 1789  bap. 17 Sep 1789
Parents: Mordecai Andrews & Hannah

William Andrews     b. 26 Mar 1791  bap. 2 Jan 1792
Parents: Mordecai Andrews & Hannah

Thomas Andrews      b. 13 Apr 1793  bap. 10 Dec 1795
Parents: Mordecai Andrews & Hannah

Mordecai Andrews    b. 10 Oct 1795  bap. 10 Dec 1795
Parents: Mordecai Andrews & Hannah

Rebecca Andrews     b. 24 Feb 1798  bap. 25 Jul 1798
Parents: Mordecai Andrews & Hannah Litchfield

Charles Andrews     b. 13 Aug 1799  bap. 28 May 1800
Parents: Mordecai Andrews & Hannah Litchfield

Samuel Andrews      b. 10 Jul 1802  bap. 24 Feb 1803
Parents: Mordecai Andrews & Hannah Litchfield

Rebekah Andrews     b. 19 Oct 1808  bap. 20 Sep 1810
Parents: Mordecai Andrews & Hannah



Marriage at Bocking, St Mary         D/P 268/1/11

1816, Jan 25
Thomas Litchfield Andrews, Bachelor, of this Parish, and
Susanna Clapham, Spinster, of this Parish

by Banns      Thomas & Susanna(h) both signed

Wit: Joseph Clapham, Sarah Clapham     both signed



Burials at Braintree, St Michael the Archangel       D/P 264/1/6

1798, Aug 12    Rebecca Andrews, Infant

1812, Jan 27    Mordicai Andrews

[No other details]



1851 Census, Braintree   HO107 1785 469 p22

High Street
Hannah Andrews, head, wid, 85, Retired Tailor's Widow, b. Braintree
Rebecca Andrews, dau, unm, 42, Dress Maker, b. Braintree

2 doors down:

Joseph E Andrews, head, unm, 25, Cooper (Master employing 2? assist?), b. London
Hannah Andrews, aunt, wid, 60, Proprietor of Houses, b. Braintree, Essex
Sarah Andrews, aunt, wid, 61, Housekeeper, b. Bocking, Essex



1821 Census, Braintree   D/DU 65/83

High Street
Andrews, Hannah & Linton, Mrs     Employed in Trade     4 females

1 age 16-20   1 age 31-40   1 age 51-60   1 age 71-80


It is possible (probable?) that this Hannah, with daughter Rebecca,
is Hannah Litchfield.
And that she has been a Widow since 1812.



Regards   CP

[S.J Detective]

Hi CP,

Many thanks for all the Andrews info that you have kindly posted onto this topic.  It's going to take a while to work through it all but I am sure it will prove invaluable and help greatly in my research.

Thanks for your time and help much appreciated.

SJ Detective

[janet lesley]

Hi, I am the Australian end of the Mordecai Andrews family tree. Rev. Mordecai 1st, 1717-1750 m. Sarah Fann . I have no other siblings except Rev. Mordecai 11.  1749-1799,m. Elizabeth Rutt. Her parents were George Rutt and Elizabeth Towill,her brother was John Towill Rutt.  Mordecai 2nd children were , Mordecai 3rd , George died young,  John,  Eliza em. to America, Edward,  Charles a farmer,  Alfred died baby , Harriet m. G.Wray stonemason,  Charlotte m. T Wood Solicitor in Walworth,  Emily m. Rev William Temple,  Frederick em. to America .  Edward  1787-1841,m Elizabeth Honor Symons,and became the independent minister for the Beresford Chapel in Romford, they had 12 children. Edward William 1812 -1877 em. to Australia, Frederic George  1814-1890 em. to Australia, Eliza 1816 m. Charles Orme ,distiller,  Charlotte 1817 died unmarried,  Louisa 1819 , Marianne 1820 died unmarried, Adolphus, Emily Augusta 1824 -1862 m Coventry Patmore (poet),  Georgiana 1825,  m. George Patmore, Augustus 1827 , Lionel 1829 died baby, Clarence 1831 died baby.  The family say they are connected to Bishop Lancelot Andrews family, I would love to find this  connection . Hope someone can help.

[m123]

Hi Janet, thanks for a fascinating post. A few scattered comments on it that you may be able to help with.

A link to Lancelot Andrew(e)s would be great, though it's perhaps a bit unlikely that a great High Churchman would have so many dissenters among his descendants and their spouses.

Similarly, Emily Andrews marrying Rev William Temple might suggest a link to the two Archbishops Temple but again I doubt it. Do you know anything about William - I have found him in West Ham in 1841 but not thereafter?

Mordecai I is show in IGI to be buried on 16/2/1649 at Bunhill Fields Cemetery, London.

"Mrs Mordecai Andrews"  (who we have as Elizabeth Rutt) is stated to be the granddaughter of Rev John Mason 1677-1723 in a contemporary book, which doesn't stack up with your Elizabeth Towill as her mother. Any thoughts?

Do you realise that Emily Augusta was the model for Coventry Patmore's most famous poem, "Angel in the house"? There is a picture of her by Millais on the Wikipedia entry for Coventry.

[janet lesley]

Hi, I have a lot of info on Emily Augusta and Coventry Patmores family, his brother Gurney lived in Australia for some years and their children were born here. Emily`s older brother Frederic George was my G.G.grandfather, I have some photos.  Emily (Mord .2nd & Elizabeth `s ) is a mystery to me,all I know is the married name,no dates or family connections.  I can`t explain the Towill name except George Rutts son was called John Towill Rutt. Perhaps we have an unexplained father ? The link to Lancelot is  possible , he was the oldest of 13 children and although he was a professional churchman he had a lot of puritan influences around him. I have his mothers will and in it she leaves a third share of the Mayflower to her brother in law  William Andrews. Another Uncle (I think) financed the puritan colony to America. The gap between Mordecai  1st and lancelots brothers is a big one but what a chalenge!!!

[argentina]

Hi I have just got some info from

surman.english.qmul.ac.uk

about Samuel Douglas

it states that he married the widow of  Mordecai Andrews  who died in 1801

Argentina x

[teaurn]

Try this link from the Seax Catalogue put in search for Hatfield Broad Oak and Andrews and it came up with 10 occurances

http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/all_results.asp?intSearchType=12

might be something of interest

[janet lesley]

Hi,  Samual Douglass  must have married Mordecai 2nds widow Elizabeth Rutt ,Mordecai 2nd died ( according to my records)1799. I wonder if this is my Mordecai, I have found others. I will need to do some more research. Thanks for the lead. janet