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Scotts from Ashkirk
« on: Monday 21 April 08 02:16 BST (UK) »
I've been very lucky to use the tools I'm aware of and find many records of my family of Scotts who lived in Ashkirk during the 1800's.  I've hit a wall though.

i have the marriage record of William Scott and Mary Scott, married Nov 5, 1826, Yarrow Parish.

i've got a solid record of their children  and my great grandfather in particular, Alexander Scott, born Apr 30, 1840, at Synton Lodge, Ashkirk

i've tracked the census reports and other certficates and learned that his parents, William and Mary, lived out there life in Ashkirk.

i hoping someone could lead me on how to learn more about William and Mary though. census reports show that he was likely born about 1800 in Selkirkshire and she about 1806. her death record in 1880 listed her parents as John Scott and Helen Scott perhaps of Yarrow.

is there any Ashkirk experts out there?

a long lost Scott

Scott-Traquair, Catslacknowe, Ashkirk, Sco
Stutt-Co Fermanagh and Tyrone, Ulster, NI
Newton-North Plantagenet(CAN), Ireland
Grieve-Roberton, Lilliesleaf Sco
Hodgins-Cloughjordan, Co Tipperary, Ire
Elliot-Canonbie, Bogra, Holmhead, Annan, Sco and Egremont Engl
Little-Canonbie Sco,  Kingsbridgeford, Thirlwall, Wallasey Eng
McAlister-Louth Co., Queen's Co. Ire
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Re: Scotts from Ashkirk
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 21 June 09 19:10 BST (UK) »
You are lucky we are starting to overhaul Ashkirk and bring the MIs up to 2009 with photos this coming week.It will take a while as i also finishing Yarrow MIs at the moment.I think i told you Williams death at Dimpleknowe 19-10-1848 aged 48 however i cannot find his birth about 1800 but i did finda william christened ashkirk 2-5-1810 to a John Scott and a Nelly Scott.(nellie or nell being a Helen) I could find nothing in the Selkir MIS
Ashkirk MIs were last done about 1960 and only up to 1855 and they are poor with no map to help.The headstones have all been neglected but we should find plenty Scotts and i will bare you in mind.
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Re: Scotts from Ashkirk
« Reply #2 on: Monday 22 June 09 16:11 BST (UK) »
thanks for the news re Ashkirk MI's.  Hopefully it will shed some light for me.  By the way, the John and Helen Scott you spoke of were the parents to Mary Scott who married the William Scott who died in 1848....if you can follow me.  So, thanks for helping me find her a brother.

Merv
Scott-Traquair, Catslacknowe, Ashkirk, Sco
Stutt-Co Fermanagh and Tyrone, Ulster, NI
Newton-North Plantagenet(CAN), Ireland
Grieve-Roberton, Lilliesleaf Sco
Hodgins-Cloughjordan, Co Tipperary, Ire
Elliot-Canonbie, Bogra, Holmhead, Annan, Sco and Egremont Engl
Little-Canonbie Sco,  Kingsbridgeford, Thirlwall, Wallasey Eng
McAlister-Louth Co., Queen's Co. Ire
Smith-Whitehaven Eng


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Re: Scotts from Ashkirk
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 25 July 09 16:00 BST (UK) »
A break.  The wonderful staff at the Heritage Hub in Hawick have located a newspaper clipping reporting on the death of my gr gr grandfather, William Scott.  It was reported in the Oct 27th publication of the Kelso Chronicle.  Unfortunately it's a sad story but explains that our William had frozen to death one frosty night after falling into water on his hike home to Ashkirk from Hawick, where he had travelled and made some purchases that day.  The date of his death reported by the Kelso Chronicle is the same on the headstone in the Ashkirk Church cemetery so I'm in luck that far at least.

I haven't had much luck learning about all the different Scott families in the area at the time.   I've been fortunate to find living descendants of subsequent marriages to Hoggs and Grieves of Ashkirk though.   So all was not lost. 

 
Scott-Traquair, Catslacknowe, Ashkirk, Sco
Stutt-Co Fermanagh and Tyrone, Ulster, NI
Newton-North Plantagenet(CAN), Ireland
Grieve-Roberton, Lilliesleaf Sco
Hodgins-Cloughjordan, Co Tipperary, Ire
Elliot-Canonbie, Bogra, Holmhead, Annan, Sco and Egremont Engl
Little-Canonbie Sco,  Kingsbridgeford, Thirlwall, Wallasey Eng
McAlister-Louth Co., Queen's Co. Ire
Smith-Whitehaven Eng

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Re: Scotts from Ashkirk
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 19 August 09 11:19 BST (UK) »
Hello Merv

I have just started researching the SCOTT family originally from Yarrow.

My SCOTT'S are:
Robert SCOTT - 21 November 1815.
Walter SCOTT - 14 February 1818
George SCOTT - 17 August 1820 died 16 April 1857 in Hawick flesher. (My direct line)
Agnes SCOTT - 11 September 1823
Isabella SCOTT - 26 November 1826
There were possibly 2 other sons called John and James
The aboves  parents were Robert SCOTT  1786 - 1863 and Agnes MITCHELL c1782 - 1857.

Robert SCOTT - 1786 - 1863 parents were John SCOTT and Mary GRIEVE

Have you come across them with your research? Can you make anything a bit clearer for me?  :-\
I have just downloaded a will for John Scott, Flesher from Hawick 14/02/1850, I don't think he is my John, but willing to share

Look forward to hearing from you or anyone else that can help

Best wishes

Amanda

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Re: Scotts from Ashkirk
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 19 August 09 15:19 BST (UK) »
Sorry to report that I haven't come across your line of Scotts before.  You've certainly done a good job getting back as far as you have.  Congratulations.

You mentioned that you downloaded a will.  I have never found a will and was wondering where you found this one?

Merv
Scott-Traquair, Catslacknowe, Ashkirk, Sco
Stutt-Co Fermanagh and Tyrone, Ulster, NI
Newton-North Plantagenet(CAN), Ireland
Grieve-Roberton, Lilliesleaf Sco
Hodgins-Cloughjordan, Co Tipperary, Ire
Elliot-Canonbie, Bogra, Holmhead, Annan, Sco and Egremont Engl
Little-Canonbie Sco,  Kingsbridgeford, Thirlwall, Wallasey Eng
McAlister-Louth Co., Queen's Co. Ire
Smith-Whitehaven Eng

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Re: Scotts from Ashkirk
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 19 August 09 15:37 BST (UK) »
Hi Merv

I use http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/
It is really useful and you will probably find loads of stuff, but it does become expensive, especially when looking for SCOTT!!  ::)
Hope that helps

Best wishes
Amanda

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Re: Scotts from Ashkirk
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 20 August 09 02:09 BST (UK) »
thanks for the tip Amanda
Scott-Traquair, Catslacknowe, Ashkirk, Sco
Stutt-Co Fermanagh and Tyrone, Ulster, NI
Newton-North Plantagenet(CAN), Ireland
Grieve-Roberton, Lilliesleaf Sco
Hodgins-Cloughjordan, Co Tipperary, Ire
Elliot-Canonbie, Bogra, Holmhead, Annan, Sco and Egremont Engl
Little-Canonbie Sco,  Kingsbridgeford, Thirlwall, Wallasey Eng
McAlister-Louth Co., Queen's Co. Ire
Smith-Whitehaven Eng

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Re: Scotts from Ashkirk
« Reply #8 on: Friday 21 August 09 13:19 BST (UK) »
Merv

I have just come across this which maybe to do with your William that drowned


WILLIE'S DROWNED IN YARROW.

THIS ballad from its touching sentiment and natural pathos
has always been popular. It has frequently been
printed with variations, but Professor Aytoun is of opinion that



WILLIE'S DROWNED IN YARROW. 23

the version given by him in The Ballads of Scotland is genuine,
and on the authority of that learned and conscientious compiler
we have given it here.

" WILLIE'S rare and Willie's fair,
And Willie's wondrous bonny,
And Willie's hecht to marry me,
Gin e'er he married ony.

" Yestreen I made my bed fu' braid,

This night I'll make it narrow,
For a' the live long winter night
I'll lie twin'd of my marrow.

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" O gentle wind that bloweth south,
From where my love repaireth,
Convey a kiss from his dear mouth,
And tell me how he fareth.

" O tell sweet Willie to come doun,

And bid him no be cruel,
And tell him no to break the heart
Of his love and only jewel.

" O tell sweet Willie to come doun,

And hear the mavis singing ;
And see the birds on ilka bush.
And leaves around them hinging.



24 WILLIE'S DROWNED IN YARROW.

" O cam' ye by yon water side ?

Pu'd ye the rose or lily ?
Or cam' ye by yon meadow green ?
Or saw ye my sweet Willie ?"

She sought him east, she sought him west,
She sought him braid and narrow ;

Syne, in the cleaving of a craig,
She fand him drown'd in Yarrow.


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