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Re: Unusual death in Liverpool
« Reply #54 on: Friday 25 April 08 16:18 BST (UK) »


Look at this ...... now this man looks to be an interesting man !  :)

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« Reply #55 on: Friday 25 April 08 16:21 BST (UK) »


And what can we get out of this ... do you think ??  :)

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Re: Unusual death in Liverpool
« Reply #56 on: Friday 25 April 08 16:37 BST (UK) »


ARCHIBALD CREGEEN (b. 1774, d. 1841),

third son of William Cregeen and Mary Fairclough, was born at Colby, where his father practised the trade of cooper. From Archibald's infancy he spoke Manx, which was then more commonly spoken than English. Nothing is known of his early education, but, from the fact of his having selected the trade of marble mason, it is evident that he must have been able to read, write, and spell English. During the term of his apprenticeship, he spent his leisure in studying the scanty literature in Manx, which mainly consisted of the Bible and Prayer-book and some MS. carols and ballads, and he then began to critically examine the structure and idiomatic characteristics of the Manx language. After his marriage, in 1798, he built a cottage near his father's, which he occupied all the rest of his life. In 1813, he was appointed Coroner of Rushen Sheading. It must be remembered that this office was then a more important one than it is now, seeing that the coroners had at that time to hold inquests. In 1818, he began to prepare a vocabulary of the Manx language for publication. No such work had as yet appeared, for Dr. Kelly's Manx and English Dictionary, though in MS., was not published till 1866. He had not access to this MS., nor is it much to be regretted that this should have been the case, since, if he had been able to avail himself of it, it is probable that much of the originality by which his own work is marked would have been wanting. He had, however, the Manx Grammar by the same author, which was issued from the press in 1804, and he also received much assistance from the Revs. Hugh Stowell, Thomas Howard, John Nelson, and, more especially, John Harrison, then Vicar of Jurby, with whom he stayed for three months for this purpose. John Harrison was thoroughly conversant with the language, and it seems probable that the preface of the dictionary and a portion of the introduction to it were written by him. For twenty years he worked slowly but sedulously at his book (which was not published till 1838),* in the intervals of rest from his more active employment. Considering his imperfect education, it is a very praiseworthy piece of work and, in many respects, superior to Kelly's dictionary. Its prominent features are the indication of the radical initials of words and the number of Manx proverbs to be found in its pages. Some of the introductory remarks on the linguistic peculiarities of Manx have been borrowed from Dr Kelly's grammar, but others, which are original, denote an accurate knowledge of the idiomatic characteristics of the language. CREGEEN was a man of middle stature and heavily made. His forehead was broad, his eyes dark-brown, and his eye-brows dark and bushy. He always wore a low-crowned, broad-brimmed hat, like a quaker's. He spoke but little and that very slowly, except when the conversation related to topics connected with his native tongue or the manners and customs of the Manx peasantry. " I reverence," says George Borrow of Cregeen, " the very ground upon which that man trod, because he was one of the greatest natural Celtic scholars who had ever lived." (An abstract of an account by the late J. M. Jeffcott.)
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Re: Unusual death in Liverpool
« Reply #57 on: Friday 25 April 08 17:16 BST (UK) »
have you seen this i.o.m site annie
http://www.lawsons.ca/


heh, how about this, fanny marrying a QUALTROUGH all your christmases have come at once!!


WOOD, Fanny Isabella    4 Aug 1885   C   mal   20   QUALTROUGH, Richard

CREGEEN, Elizabeth      Rus   4 Jun 1820   
CREGEEN, Elizabeth   7   Bal   2 Nov 1835   
CREGEEN, Elizabeth   30   Rus   6 Nov 1842   
CREGEEN, Elizabeth   1 week   Rus   9 Feb 1859   
CREGEEN, Elizabeth   81   Rus   29 Jan 1863   
CREGEEN, Elizabeth   18   Rus   5 Mar 1882   
CREGEEN, Elizabeth   60   Rus   23 Jan 1887   
CREGEEN, Elizabeth   56   Rus   20 Mar 1907   
CREGEEN, Elizabeth   79   Arb   24 Mar 1914   
CREGEEN, Elizabeth Jane   33   Rus   14 Feb 1937   
CREGEEN, Elizabeth   62   Rus   25 Jun 1941   
CREGEEN, Elizabeth Catherine   71   Rus   22 Aug 1947

      Mal   14 Jul 1689   
CREGEEN, Thomas   3   Arb   9 Feb 1843   
CREGEEN, Thomas   75   Rus   28 Jun 1844   
CREGEEN, Thomas   3   Rus   25 Nov 1851   
CREGEEN, Thomas Benjamin   2   Arb   7 Apr 1853   
CREGEEN, Thomas   63   Rus   13 Oct 1862   
CREGEEN, Thomas   17   Rus   1 Mar 1865   
CREGEEN, Thomas Elias   3   Rus   15 Nov 1869   
CREGEEN, Thomas   72   San   28 Sep 1874   
CREGEEN, Thomas   59   Rus   7 Apr 1879   
CREGEEN, Thomas   88   Arb   27 Nov 1893   
CREGEEN, Thomas   56   Mal   8 Jul 1901   
CREGEEN, Thomas Herbert   25   Mal   25 Aug 1903   
CREGEEN, Thomas C   41   Rus   19 Jan 1908   
CREGEEN, Thomas   88   Rus   5 Jan 1917   
CREGEEN, Thomas   72   Rus   14 Jan 1920   
CREGEEN, Thomas   82   Rus   29 Jun 1933   
CREGEEN, Thomas   83   Rus   12 Feb 1939   

Crosbie, Crosby, Black, Woods, Johnstone, Kelly, Howatt, McMillan, Wauchope Scott, Smith, Gibbons, Roberts, Hildred, Jones, Hughes. Curran, Palmer. Hughes, Jones, Wilcox, wilbraham, owen
Liverpool, Dumfriesshire, Kirkudbrightshire, Cheshire, Flintshire, llanrwst, trefriw, Lincolnshire, America, Canada, New Zealand.


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Re: Unusual death in Liverpool
« Reply #58 on: Friday 25 April 08 17:18 BST (UK) »
Wow, this must be going for one of the most wonderful rootschat thread ever! 

This is all fascinating, and shows (again) what collaborative research can do.

Restors my faith in .. etc.
BENNET(T); NRY- Brotton, CON
BURTON; NRY- Saltburn, Guisborough, Marske, Stokesley
Judge Newark Lincoln BURTON , USA
DALES; NRY- Brotton, LIN - Orby
DAVIES
GEORGE: GLA - Oystermouth & Penarth, CON
LINCOLN. Middlesbrough, NRY, Durham
PERRETT Gloucestershire
QUESTED London. Assisting with One-name Study.
TRASK; GLA - Cardiff, Barry etc, SOM - South Petherton
WESTED

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Re: Unusual death in Liverpool
« Reply #59 on: Friday 25 April 08 17:34 BST (UK) »

heh, how about this, fanny marrying a QUALTROUGH all your christmases have come at once!!


WOOD, Fanny Isabella    4 Aug 1885   C   mal   20   QUALTROUGH, Richard



Oh Purlin ! .... you've done it now !!   ;D ...

the Qualtroughs ..... my eyes have gone gozzy looking at them !!  :D :D :D
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Re: Unusual death in Liverpool
« Reply #60 on: Friday 25 April 08 21:35 BST (UK) »
 gozzy,  cozzy,  rozzer, sozzled, maybe annie, you should start a scousers dictionary.

havent heard gozzy eyed for years. we have some very descriptive and colourful words in the pool dont we!
Crosbie, Crosby, Black, Woods, Johnstone, Kelly, Howatt, McMillan, Wauchope Scott, Smith, Gibbons, Roberts, Hildred, Jones, Hughes. Curran, Palmer. Hughes, Jones, Wilcox, wilbraham, owen
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« Reply #61 on: Friday 25 April 08 22:28 BST (UK) »
Shall we do Spring Heeled Jack next or has that been done already?
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« Reply #62 on: Friday 25 April 08 22:40 BST (UK) »


You know him Shaun ??

were you one of the people who sighted him ? ... or was that a bit before your time ??  :D :D :D :D :D
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Be who you are and say what you feel -  because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind ! Dr. Seuss

Erect no gravestone .... let the Rose every year bloom for his sake ! Rilke Sonnets to Orpheus, I