William Dalziel b 1821/22 Twynholm

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The children that I have from the IGI for William and Agnes are:

1843 - Sarah (Agnes's mothe)
1844 - James (William's father)
1846 - Samuel (Agnes's father)
1850 - Margaret (William's mother)
(from census) c. 1852 - William
1856 - Catherine McBride
1859 - Mary Jane
1861 - Jannet

I know that you said you had them but the naming shows  that they used the Scottish naming convention. Query - no daughter Agnes showing

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The children that I have from the IGI for John Roy, Twynholm are:

10 October 1779 - Margaret
26 Mar 1786 - Keatrin
12 Nov 1790 - Isobell
26 May 1793 - Grizal

Scotland's People are likely to list more including the sons 

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[kitty5]

wow Gadget.
you are so quick!!!
just read your messages it's fantastic to find all this info. I  have re read it a few times , just off to have a lay down  to think about where to start.
your'e a star
many thanks
kitty

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I'll work it out a bit for you over the weekend, Kitty. It came a bit thick and fast for me too 

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a little summary of the direct line so far:

William Dalziel b.c.1821, Twynholm  d. 1909, aged 88
Parents - James Dalziel (b c. 1784 d. 1872, aged 88). and Margaret Roy (b.1779 d. 1864, aged 85)

Margaret Roy
Parents - John Roy (b.c. 1750 d. 1812, aged 62) and Agnes Dickson (b.c. 1755 d 1843, aged 88)


James Daziel's parents should be shown on his death cert of 1872 (shown as James Dalziel, shoemaker and Helen m.s. not given)*




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* James showing as born Co Down, Ireland on later censuses

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James Dalziel (1784-1872) and Margaret Roy (1779-1864)

1841
Twynholm Village
James Dazell, 60-64, shoemaker, b. Ireland
Margaret, 60-64, b. Kirkcudbrightshire
William, 4,b. Kirkcudbrightshire

1851
High Village, Twynholm
James Dalziel, 66, Master shoemaker, employing 2 men, b. Ireland
Margaret, 67, b. Twynholm
William, 14, grandson, b. Twynholm
Robert McDonald, 44, lodger, Clogger - journeyman, b. Dumfries

1861
Private House, Twynholm village
James Dalziel, 75, Master shoemaker employing 2 men, b. County Down, ireland
Margret, 79, b. Twynholm
William, grdson, 23, shoemaker - journeyman, b. Twynholm

In 1871, James is with his son Thomas and a large family. I'll type this out separately.

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Here we are:

1871

Twynholm village
Thomas Dalziel, 52, shoemaker, b. Twynholm
Isabella,w, 51, shoemaker's wife, b. Girthon
Elisabeth, d, 17, b. Twynholm
William, s, 15, shoemaker's apprentice
Maggie,d, 12, b. Twynholm
Agness H, d, 9, b. Twynholm
Thomas G, s, 5, b. Twynholm
James, father, 88, formerly shoemaker, b. Co Down, Ireland
William, nephew, 33, shoemaker, b. Twynholm
Hamilton Thomson, app, 17, app shoemaker, b. Balmaghie


This family is the one listed in the MI -

Thos Dalziel  - 29 April 1899, aged 80. Wife - Isabella Robison 25 jan 1900, aged 81 and-
imo da Mary G d. 16 Feb 1857, aged 5, s. John d. 1 March 1858, aged 11, s. jas, 4 April 1869, aged 20, s. Thos G 23 Feb 1888, aged 21, s. Wm 27 March 1892, aged 36, da Agnes Helen 16 March 1895, aged 34

And nephew William might well be this one:

William Dalziel 16 Jan 1915, aged 80

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Would you like more information on Agnes Telfer's line 


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The MI for Agnes's parents in Girthon has the following information:

Samuel Telfer - d. 17 Aug 1868, aged 74
wife - Sarah Scott - d. 20 Dec 1870, aged 76
children:
John - 20 Aug 1836, aged 18
Mary - 26 April 1845, aged 18
James - d. Dalkieth 18 Jan 1867, aged 35
Jane - d. Dumfries 12 April 1894, aged 71

Because Samuel and Sarah died after 1854, their death certs will be on the Scotlands People site and they can also be followed through the censuses.

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