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Re: Publican in 'Norwell'
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 20 May 08 19:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Lee,

         Have a look at this for 1881 and see if it helps  :)

               http://www.1881pubs.com/results.asp


                           Sue
Many thanks for this - great site - it appears there are 2 publicans or innkeepers listed in the 1881 census in Norwell (There is another in the Norwell Woodhouse) I suppose I have a 50/50 chance that William Lambert was the publican of the Plough that still stands today!

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Re: Publican in 'Norwell'
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 20 May 08 19:49 BST (UK) »
just to add- I had a quick look at a couple of directories- in Norwell 1876 only the Plough is named as a pub, but in 1886 (I think) Whites has 2 beerhouses. He was likely to be a tenant publican -it may have been the Plough- but if it was a simple beerhouse, it may just have been a cottage (literally) industry out of the front room. I believe someone who lived in my house mid 19th did just that!. So not a pub closure as such. Anyway- the offer is still there, and I could have a quick look in the churchyard if you like.
Sally
WRY- Thompson,Cowburn,Walker, Glossop,
London- Chesney/Chesnut
all areas- Tuxworth
Lincs/ Notts- Graves, White, Wilson,Pedge,Tuxford, Bonner
Devon- Dean, Crode (also NFL) Coode, Tucker, Miles ( origin Hampshire)
Beds/Herts/ Northants- Newberry, Shepherd, Norton, Blackabey
Kent- Munn, Moore

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Re: Publican in 'Norwell'
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 20 May 08 19:51 BST (UK) »
Anyway- the offer is still there, and I could have a quick look in the churchyard if you like.
Sally

Well if you're sure you don't mind that woudl be absolutely fantastic. No rush of course. Thanks again.


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Re: Publican in 'Norwell'
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 20 May 08 19:57 BST (UK) »
Well if you need any Notts PR's there are people on here with access to them, and BTW there are still Lamberts in Newark, don't know if they are related to you. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Many thanks for your advice Jaywit. :)

Having trouble finding the birth cert for William Moody .... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. EDIT - i take that back - i've got him!!! :)

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Re: Publican in 'Norwell'
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 20 May 08 20:03 BST (UK) »
William Moody Lambert
1858 Jul-Sep
Southwell District
Vol 7b  page 257

Sally
WRY- Thompson,Cowburn,Walker, Glossop,
London- Chesney/Chesnut
all areas- Tuxworth
Lincs/ Notts- Graves, White, Wilson,Pedge,Tuxford, Bonner
Devon- Dean, Crode (also NFL) Coode, Tucker, Miles ( origin Hampshire)
Beds/Herts/ Northants- Newberry, Shepherd, Norton, Blackabey
Kent- Munn, Moore

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Re: Publican in 'Norwell'
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 20 May 08 20:04 BST (UK) »
William Moody Lambert
1858 Jul-Sep
Southwell District
Vol 7b  page 257

Sally
Thanks Sally, think we got him at the same time!

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Re: Publican in 'Norwell'
« Reply #15 on: Friday 23 May 08 15:09 BST (UK) »
Hi again,
Sorry i did not manage to get to Norwell earlier in the week-something came up!- But have been now.

I had a thorough look in the churchyard.There are a few badly eroded gravestones that were illeg, and an area of obviously cleared graves. Sorry- there were no Lamberts, or Moody or Leather stones. You may have more luck at Ossington.

As for pubs-- now only the plough remains. It is in the middle  of the village, on the main street, and opp Bathley Road. I had a look at the Nat Arch site, and found a reference to 3 pubs in Norwell originally. From a doc dated 1823 The Plough, then tenant Thomas Bamford. from 1822 there was a ref to THE BLACK HORSE, Tennant Joseph Curtis ( loads of Curtis graves at the church).  and from 1912, a bazaar ELEPHANT AND CASTLE.

I asked around, and two lovely people at the village store confirmed Norwell did used to have 3 pubs,
a local lad said he thought the Elephant was at the Newark end of the village near the church, and the Black Horse was opposite the Plough- making it on Bathley Road (or Lane?).  He said he couldn't remember them, it was just what he knew of the village history. There is also a Black Horse Farm, the out buildings of which are converted to the village stores-- the owner said she did not think it was ever a pub.-and it is further along the main street towards the church.

Gander(s) Hill--this appears to be the hill just outside Norwell along Bathley Road. I was told that the locals refer to a row of 3 cottages on Bathley road as Gander Hill.These were derelict farm cottages until being rebuilt in 1990s apparently. So Bathley Road could be what you are looking for--and therefore your pub could have been the old  Black Horse.


Sorry cant be of more help
Sally

WRY- Thompson,Cowburn,Walker, Glossop,
London- Chesney/Chesnut
all areas- Tuxworth
Lincs/ Notts- Graves, White, Wilson,Pedge,Tuxford, Bonner
Devon- Dean, Crode (also NFL) Coode, Tucker, Miles ( origin Hampshire)
Beds/Herts/ Northants- Newberry, Shepherd, Norton, Blackabey
Kent- Munn, Moore

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Re: Publican in 'Norwell'
« Reply #16 on: Friday 23 May 08 18:20 BST (UK) »
Wow, thanks so much Sally,
Sorry cant be of more help
You've been an amazing help!!!

Thanks.

Lee

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Re: Publican in 'Norwell'
« Reply #17 on: Friday 23 May 08 19:36 BST (UK) »
Have you looked at the 1861 & 1871 censuses?
 William M Lambert & his grandparents and presumably mother and siblings in Gander Hill in 1861.

Eric
Beeston, Whithead & Towle
Allesley, Bloxham from c. 1815
Foleshill, Gee (Jee) Adams Millerchip
Burton Dassett, Bloxham to c. 1815