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Allen in Glemsford
« on: Tuesday 06 April 04 19:14 BST (UK) »
I'm looking for allen family connections from Glemsford, particularly parents and siblings of James Allen born 1836
Norfolk and Suffolk: allen, bentley, edwards, green(e), king, long, mansfield,, reeve, reynolds, salmon Essex: page, palmer, nice London: greenland, Yorkshire: fox, harrison, hepinstall, hirst, holland, more to come.....

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Re: Allen in Glemsford
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 17 July 04 17:10 BST (UK) »
The 1841 does not give relationships nor place of birth.  It does indicate however, whether or not people were born within the county.

1841 Census Glemsford Suffolk HO107/1011/14  Folio 30


ALLEN James, 40, Carpenter, yes
ALLEN Elizabeth, 40, no
ALLEN Elizabeth, 10, yes
ALLEN Cornelius, 9, yes
ALLEN Ebenezer, 7, yes
ALLEN James, 5, yes
ALLEN Ellen, 3, yes
ALLEN John, 1, yes


1851 Census Index, Glemsford Suffolk HO107/1788 Folio 536

ALLEN James, 52,
ALLEN Elizabeth, 50
ALLEN Cornelius, 19
ALLEN Ebenezer, 17
ALLEN Jas, 15,
ALLEN Ellen, 13,
ALLEN Maria, 6

If you would like me to track this family through 1861-1901, please let me know

Rick
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Re: Allen in Glemsford
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 17 July 04 20:55 BST (UK) »
Rick,

HERO :D, what can I say. If you could track the family that would be fantastic. I know James jnr  moved to Burnham long enough to get married then moved to Stratford St Mary, and eventually Norwich but how he arrived in this life was a mystery.

I'm away on hols for a week, thanks again. TJ
Norfolk and Suffolk: allen, bentley, edwards, green(e), king, long, mansfield,, reeve, reynolds, salmon Essex: page, palmer, nice London: greenland, Yorkshire: fox, harrison, hepinstall, hirst, holland, more to come.....

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Re: Allen in Glemsford
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 18 July 04 01:44 BST (UK) »
1861 census Glemsford RG9/1132 folio 52 page entry 38

grocers ? Glemsford
Corneleus Allen 29 grocer b Glemsford
Sarah Allen wife 29 b Olan (mayb) suffolk
Mary Ann (cant hazard a guess} visitor 63 laundry b essex pintow

Kris
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Re: Allen in Glemsford
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 18 July 04 01:54 BST (UK) »
1861 census Glemford RG9/1132 folio 52 pg 8 entry 39 (actually this is the very next entry from cornelius although it is over the page)

Tye Green ? Carpenters Shop

James Allen 62 carpenter employ 1 man 1 boy b Glemsford
Eliz 60 wife carpenetre b Essex (looks like Layer mumy-sorry I dont know Essex)
Ebenezer 27 son carpenter b Glemsford
eliza 13 niece servant b Essex ?

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Re: Allen in Glemsford
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 18 July 04 10:04 BST (UK) »
Kris,

big thanks to you too!! ;D

TJ
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Re: Allen in Glemsford
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 18 July 04 10:40 BST (UK) »
no worries  :'( sorry your James isnt there
Kris
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Re: Allen in Glemsford
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 18 July 04 11:06 BST (UK) »
Kris,

don't be sorry. I know where James went to from '51. It was the family I couldn't find out about as his birth didn't appear to be registered. Now I can follow up some more leads. It's possible cornelius' visitor may have been a family member.

I grew up in Gorleston in Norfolk, not that far from Woolpit really. There were a few Ollingtons about, including Brian Ollington who has a photographic shop in the High Steet(no 86). They also sell lots of old photos of the area.

TJ
Norfolk and Suffolk: allen, bentley, edwards, green(e), king, long, mansfield,, reeve, reynolds, salmon Essex: page, palmer, nice London: greenland, Yorkshire: fox, harrison, hepinstall, hirst, holland, more to come.....

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Re: Allen in Glemsford
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 18 July 04 20:51 BST (UK) »
TJ

Here is James ALLEN's marriage from the Suffolk Marriage Index 1813 -37 Babergh Deanery (Published by the SFHS)

James Allen to  Elizabeth King at Glemsford on 24 Aug 1817 (both single and of the parish of Glemsford)

I also found some ALLEN burials at Glemsford on the NBI (published by the FFHS,)

12 Nov 1870 Beatrice ALLEN 4m Suffolk Glemsford, St Mary
2 Nov 1854 Daniel ALLEN 5m Suffolk Glemsford, St Mary
16 Oct 1895 Ebenezer ALLEN 61 Suffolk Glemsford, St Mary
10 Mar 1857 Elizabeth ALLEN 88 Suffolk Glemsford, St Mary
11 Sep 1861 Ellen Louisa ALLEN 7w Suffolk Glemsford, St Mary
31 Jan 1846 George Potter ALLEN 4m Suffolk Glemsford, St Mary
21 Mar 1871 Henry ALLEN 27 Suffolk Glemsford, St Mary
19 Nov 1895 Henry ALLEN 93 Suffolk Glemsford, St Mary
3 Jan 1864 Herbert ALLEN 8 Suffolk Glemsford, St Mary
19 Nov 1864 Herbert ALLEN 5d Suffolk Glemsford, St Mary
18 Aug 1864 Herbert Game ALLEN 6w Suffolk Glemsford, St Mary
24 Feb 1829 Isaac ALLEN 64 Suffolk Glemsford, St Mary
19 Aug 1895 Jane ALLEN 65 Suffolk Glemsford, St Mary
8 Nov 1899 Jane ALLEN 69 Suffolk Glemsford, St Mary
26 Jan 1850 Joseph ALLEN 6m Suffolk Glemsford, St Mary
17 Nov 1897 Louisa Potter ALLEN 71 Suffolk Glemsford, St Mary
5 Jul 1890 Sarah Ann ALLEN 76 Suffolk Glemsford, St Mary
4 Apr 1875 Susan ALLEN 71 Suffolk Glemsford, St Mary
15 Apr 1881 William ALLEN 70 Suffolk Glemsford, St Mary


James & Elizabeth don't appear to be on the 71 census, but here is James jnr;

1871 Census RG10/1747 Folio 17

Statford St Mary Suffolk



ALLEN James, Head, Mar, 35, Grocer & Draper, bn Glemsford
ALLEN Harriet, wife, bn Burnham Essex
ALLEN Sarah Ann, dau, 6,  Scholar, bn Althorne Essex
ALLEN Joseph H, son, 4, Scholar, bn Althorne Essex
ALLEN Kate, dau, 3, bn Tillingham Essex
ALLEN Charles P, 2months, bn Stratford St Mary Suffolk.
PAGE Mary Ann, Assistant,Umn,  42, Drapery Assistant, bn Burnham Essex
PAGE Charlotte, Assistant, Unm, 35, Drapery Assistant, bn Burnham Essex
LAY Emma, Servant, 15, General Servant, bn Tillingham Essex

The 1881 is of course online at www.familysearch.org

1891 RG12/1518 Folio 134

45 Calvert Street, Norwich


ALLEN Sarah A, Head, Unm, 26, Teacher of Music, bn Althorne Essex
ALLEN James, Father, 55, Retired Grocer, bn Glemsford Suffolk
ALLEN Harriet, Mother, 50, bn Burnham Essex

I cannot find James and Harriet on the 1901 index.......sorry.

Rick



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