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Offline SophiaL

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Re: Looking for SMITH family - Gypsy's ??
« Reply #63 on: Sunday 03 April 22 01:40 BST (UK) »
Bulwell area Nottingham

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Re: Looking for SMITH family - Gypsy's ??
« Reply #64 on: Saturday 03 September 22 21:28 BST (UK) »
My great grandmother was Martha Hallam (nee Smith) born 1872 died 1946
Family history passed down suggest she was descended from the Smith's who lived on the Black Patch.
Her father was John Smith (b:1833, d:1896) . Married to Martha Mason.
Her grandfather was Sidney Smith, and grandmother was Hannah Smith (nee Key or Keye)
After that the records dry up.
Family stories link them to King Ezra and Queen Henty of the Black Patch.
Can anyone fill in the gaps please.

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Re: Looking for SMITH family - Gypsy's ??
« Reply #65 on: Sunday 04 September 22 16:43 BST (UK) »
Jay Cee said and grandmother was Hannah Smith (nee Key or Keye)

Much later but Josephine Tombs' Woodfine Smith Family Tree book shows a Rose KEY marrying Felix/Phoenix CLAYTON Handsworth St James in October 1904. Felix is son of Francis Clayton and Anselina LOVELL.

Francis is son of Trezi Ann SMITH and William Clayton and Trezi Ann the daughter of Woodfine Smith.

Might be worth looking at this Rose KEY to see if you can associate her family with your Keys in earlier times.
Gypsy DRAPERs, children of Billy and Mary - Ellen,Darnity,Spencer,Billy Jnr,Kisby,Ellick
Descendants of Fred and Esther (Garrett) WHITLOCK - Wavendon, Woburn Sands area
Descendants of George and Barbara (Willis) SUTTON - Earls Barton and Nether Heyford
BISSELL - Hanslope, New Bradwell, Bucks and Aston, Birmingham area
Lavinia DRAPER died 1840 Cranfield
Gypsies in the Bow Brickhill and Beds/Bucks border areas

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Re: Looking for SMITH family - Gypsy's ??
« Reply #66 on: Monday 05 September 22 20:36 BST (UK) »
Where in England was Sidney born and what year?
Thanks,


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Re: Looking for SMITH family - Gypsy's ??
« Reply #67 on: Friday 11 November 22 20:16 GMT (UK) »
Hello I am a Smith I am a traveller 3 out of my 4 grandparents were Smiths apparently all from the same root. My father's parents were first cousins ie 2 brother's children descendants of Jasper Smith son of Thomas Smith and Sarah Taylor.
My maternal grandad also a Smith was descended from Woodfine Smith and Sarah Boswell as far as i have worked out Woodfine is the grandson of Thomas and Sarah and therefore the nephew of Jasper.
I have read all available paperwork that i can find but i do need some help on my mums dads line in respect to his mum Vira who also a Smith was the daughter of who? she had a sister called Sophie who married a Holland and in some way i cannot fathom she had a Neice called Mizzy and 2 nephews named George (Bung) and Jabez who was married to Violet nee Egerton.
Granny Vira also had 2 childrren before marrying my great grandad Tom to 1 of the Hollands

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Re: Looking for SMITH family - Gypsy's ??
« Reply #68 on: Sunday 09 April 23 20:49 BST (UK) »
Any one got William Smith and polly marry Arnold in there family tree use to stay with family on ashtree Lane kent thanks if you have can you email me garyg18@googlemail.com