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Re: same regiment?
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 05 June 08 12:28 BST (UK) »
BTW in the summer, shorts WERE worn on the Western Front, but not khaki drill ones!
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Re: same regiment?
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 05 June 08 12:41 BST (UK) »
Don't know what wizardry you are doing, much appreciated BUT

though I'd like it to be him I think it isn't. His full name was William Francis Roberts. It may be that the medal card is mistaken of course....?


One other thing that might be relevant is that after the SWW he emigrated to S.Africa. I don't suppose there was any fighting to speak of there? The last two pictures I have here of him seem to show him convalescing. What do you think?

Ken
Cuthbert, Roberts (Sefton. Bootle, Liverpool, St. Pancras), Burbage, Dodd.
Allison (Scotland, pre 1861) (Liverpool post 1860),
Gerrat, Davidson, Caffey, McCourt, McDill, Ireland +Scotland. Ballard, Mayman,
 Pletts, Shield, Pattison, Patteson, Johnston(Cumberland).
Thorp(e), Jacobson, Bond, Parry, Gaskill (Liverpool, Denmark), Moar, Hanaeus,Ilett
Simmons, Pritchard, Cherrington (Shropshire)

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Re: same regiment?
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 05 June 08 12:46 BST (UK) »
Yes he is!


As for the medal card...Doh! :o :o :-[

Points to note...

Pse supply ALL int on a soldier  :P ::) I can then look elsewhere! ;D ;D And hopefully get the right one FIRST time... ;) ;)
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Re: same regiment?
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 05 June 08 12:50 BST (UK) »
Lovely pics again though!


Lets try this one then...It was actually the first one I found!

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Re: same regiment?
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 05 June 08 14:17 BST (UK) »
Abject apologies for not putting in his middle name. I had tried the Medal List with William Francis Roberts and there was only one which didn't fit so I presumed he was down as just William. Sorry to have wasted your time.

The alternative MAY be him but there is no record of service overseas which my grandfather evidently did. You will know better than I whether overseas duty was always included or not. Otherwise he may be among the screeds of William Roberts there are.

Last query but not on him but my other grandfather's two brothers. Both were killed in the FWW. I have two pictures - studio unfortunately, of one of them but I don't know whether he is Stanley Allison or William Allison. It may be of use if I can have suggestions about  which regiment he is in - if it is possible. So my very last request and then I'll go away!

Ken
Cuthbert, Roberts (Sefton. Bootle, Liverpool, St. Pancras), Burbage, Dodd.
Allison (Scotland, pre 1861) (Liverpool post 1860),
Gerrat, Davidson, Caffey, McCourt, McDill, Ireland +Scotland. Ballard, Mayman,
 Pletts, Shield, Pattison, Patteson, Johnston(Cumberland).
Thorp(e), Jacobson, Bond, Parry, Gaskill (Liverpool, Denmark), Moar, Hanaeus,Ilett
Simmons, Pritchard, Cherrington (Shropshire)

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Re: same regiment?
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 05 June 08 14:31 BST (UK) »
Sorry,

Got the photo size wrong. Try again.

ken
Cuthbert, Roberts (Sefton. Bootle, Liverpool, St. Pancras), Burbage, Dodd.
Allison (Scotland, pre 1861) (Liverpool post 1860),
Gerrat, Davidson, Caffey, McCourt, McDill, Ireland +Scotland. Ballard, Mayman,
 Pletts, Shield, Pattison, Patteson, Johnston(Cumberland).
Thorp(e), Jacobson, Bond, Parry, Gaskill (Liverpool, Denmark), Moar, Hanaeus,Ilett
Simmons, Pritchard, Cherrington (Shropshire)

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Re: same regiment?
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 05 June 08 14:44 BST (UK) »
If you have these quality of piccies, don't ever go away!!

The x2 Medal Card I posted is the only other RE chap on there with that name!!

It may well just mean that he didn't go overseas until post 31 Dec 1915...

The last x2 are splendid pics and include gasmasks on the lower one..All x4 have them, so must be near the front...They wouldn't have bought them home...

I'll explain more later tonight... ;)
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Re: same regiment?
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 07 June 08 10:41 BST (UK) »
Just to clarify - these are the suggestions I had regarding the majority of the pictures I've posted above........I quote:-

Looks to be a Yeomanry regiment (horsed infantry). Note the ‘spurs’ and ‘bandoliers’. The majority of the Yeomanry regiments fought as dismounted infantry, especially at Gallipoli. Other theatres they fought in where Mesopotamia, and the Balkans

I wouldn’t hazard a quess as to the cap badge as it looks similar to quite a few Yeomanry regiments - as there were many British Yeomanry regiments on the Macedonian Front:
Derbyshire, City of London (Rough Riders), County of London, Lothian and Borders Horse, Lovat Scouts, Nottinghamshire, Scottish Horse and Surrey.

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On the very last two pictures - the soldier in the kilt who may be either Stanley Allison or William James Allison, the comment was:-


Your uncle appears to to wearing an Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders cap badge.


Ken
Cuthbert, Roberts (Sefton. Bootle, Liverpool, St. Pancras), Burbage, Dodd.
Allison (Scotland, pre 1861) (Liverpool post 1860),
Gerrat, Davidson, Caffey, McCourt, McDill, Ireland +Scotland. Ballard, Mayman,
 Pletts, Shield, Pattison, Patteson, Johnston(Cumberland).
Thorp(e), Jacobson, Bond, Parry, Gaskill (Liverpool, Denmark), Moar, Hanaeus,Ilett
Simmons, Pritchard, Cherrington (Shropshire)

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« Reply #17 on: Saturday 07 June 08 11:12 BST (UK) »
Just to clarify - these are the suggestions I had regarding the majority of the pictures I've posted above........I quote:-

Looks to be a Yeomanry regiment (horsed infantry). Note the ‘spurs’ and ‘bandoliers’. The majority of the Yeomanry regiments fought as dismounted infantry, especially at Gallipoli. Other theatres they fought in where Mesopotamia, and the Balkans

I wouldn’t hazard a quess as to the cap badge as it looks similar to quite a few Yeomanry regiments - as there were many British Yeomanry regiments on the Macedonian Front:
Derbyshire, City of London (Rough Riders), County of London, Lothian and Borders Horse, Lovat Scouts, Nottinghamshire, Scottish Horse and Surrey.

Ken


So why would they be wearing a signals brassard that was the domain of the Engineers at that point??

 ;D ;D
One more charge and then be dumb,
            When the forts of Folly fall,
        May the victors when they come
            Find my body near the wall.