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Re: Jane TRINDADE Harem
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 17 June 08 00:26 BST (UK) »
On closer look at the 1841 census it says that Elizabeth Lawer is 50. If it is the mother she married at 13. The daughter would be 35. ???

William was 2 years younger than Jane, would he have made Master mariner in his 20s?

If it was a Thomas Johns and related it must have been distant.

I'm having trouble keeping up.
I dont have the will.
My line is Janes sister Harriet Johns = Silas Hiscutt Martyn, Daughter Mary Jane (born in Tregunell) = Richard Grose Pollard, daughter Mary Louise (my Gmother).

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Re: Jane TRINDADE Harem
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 17 June 08 00:39 BST (UK) »
Ding

How fab to have a gr gr aunt with such a history!!  :o

I will look for more on national Archives.

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Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Jane TRINDADE Harem
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 17 June 08 01:20 BST (UK) »
I have just downloaded the Will of William Johns. It is 5 pages of difficult handwriting so it will take me some time to read.

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Re: Jane TRINDADE Harem
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 17 June 08 02:02 BST (UK) »
hi Ding

great stuff! how great to have a will in the family.

If you need help with transcribing it , there are many people who are whizzes at doing that on Rootschat. you could start a new thread in the common room...stating that you need the will transcribed and then post the images ....


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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Jane TRINDADE Harem
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 17 June 08 03:26 BST (UK) »
Hi Deb, having trouble doing this as the file is 580k and the limit is 500k. I might have to try scanning each page to reduce the size.

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Re: Jane TRINDADE Harem
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 17 June 08 03:59 BST (UK) »
Hi Ding,

I am afraid you will not be able to post the complete file due to copyright restrictions. Only a small portion of a document may be posted for identification purposes. You will need to scan it and crop the section you are having difficulty with. Sorry about that.......Kris  :'(
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Re: Jane TRINDADE Harem
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 17 June 08 04:40 BST (UK) »
ooops  I don't know about the copyright restrictions ...pity about that....but surely if Ding has purchased the will belonging to the family it can be transcribed  :-\

deb ...off to bed  :)
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Jane TRINDADE Harem
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 18 June 08 23:13 BST (UK) »
Hi All,

I have just received a reply from Brian Harris who's uncle wrote a piece about the abduction.(see early post from krisesjoint). An interesting inclusion was information on a Schooner named Liberty built at Ilfracombe in 1838. At the bottom of the document under the heading "Other details" this is written:

"The vessel was named Liberty in recognition of Miss Jane Johns escape from the clutches of Algerian pirates. She was a sister of Capt W. T. Johns."

From this it looks like the boats captain was William and not Thomas. It also seems that the ship that rescued her was not necessarily called Liberty. It also confirms that she was captured by pirates off the Barbary Coast. ;D

I am still struggling with the will of her father William. ???

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Re: Jane TRINDADE Harem
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 19 June 08 00:03 BST (UK) »
Fantastic news Ding.  ;D

I am pleased this has been solved. Great to know we were right with William. I didn't have a second initial for him - baptism only lists William. 

Good luck with the Will.........Kris  :D
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