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Re: Thorn family Newbury
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 18 June 08 13:17 BST (UK) »

FREDERICK THORN  B. 1828

1841 CENSUS  -  at home with parents, already posted.

1851 CENSUS :  HO107.  P. 1685  Fol. 349  Pg. 26

Living Union Chapel Yard, Newbury

Frederick  Head  M  24  Plumbers Porter  B.  Newbury, Berks
Ann Wife  M  25                                     B. Exeter, Devon
Frederick  Son  2                                   B. London, Marylebone
Charles  Son  1                                      B. Newbury, Berks

Marriage not found.

1861 CENSUS :  RG9.  P.9  Fol. 7  pg. 8

Living 2 Newcastle Mews, Paddington, London

Frederick  head  M  33  Shoemaker (master)  B. Berks. Newbury
Ann wife  M  35                                              B. Devon, Exeter
Frederick  Son  13                                          B. Middlesex, Marylebone
Charles  Son  11                                            B. Berks. Newbury
Clara  Dau  6                                                  B. Middlesex, Marylebone
Rose  Dau  4                                                  B. Middlesex, Paddington
Albert  Son  1 mth.                                         B      ~                ~
Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott

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Re: Thorn family Newbury
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 18 June 08 13:44 BST (UK) »

ALFRED THORN  B. 1827

1841 CENSUS : at home with parents, alreadt posted

1851 CENSUS:  HO107  P. 1467  Fol. 821  Pg. 15

House servant at 18 Gloucester Gardens, Paddington .
Elizabeth Ayliff from Corsham, Wilts also a servant in the household.

Alfred Thorn and Elizabeth Ayliffe married Q1. 1852 Shoreditch registration district.

1861 CENSUS   :  RG9  P. 10  Fol. 77 Pg. 35

Living 3 Lordross Street, Paddington

Alfred  Head  M  34  Indoor servant   B.  Berks. Newbury
Elizabeth  Wife  M  29                        B. Wilshire, Kersham   < Corsham>
Maria  Dau  8                                      B. Middlesex, Paddington
Frank  Son  4                                      B      ~              ~




Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott

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Re: Thorn family Newbury
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 18 June 08 14:25 BST (UK) »

AUGUSTUS THORN  B. 1830

1841 CENSUS:  at home with parents, already posted

1851 CENSUS:  HO107.  P. 1553  Fol. 161  Pg. 26

Indexed as Skora
Lodging in Stepney, working as a cordwainer.

1861 CENSUS:   RG9.  P. 720  Fol. 48  Pg. 21

Living Drummer, Newbury

Augustus  head  M  31  Shoemaker (Master)
Mary  wife  m  30
William  Son  8
Thomas  Son 6
Alfred  Son 4
Mary A  Dau  2
Eliza  Dai  1 mth.

all born Newbury

There is a possible marriage Augustin Thorn Q1. 1852 Shoreditch registration District, Mary White.

However, you would need to get one of the children's birth certificates to confirm Mary's maiden name.

There is a Mary White on the 1851 census born 1832 Newbury, parents Thomas and Mary....
Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott

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Re: Thorn family Newbury
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 18 June 08 14:36 BST (UK) »


In 1861 your GGG grand father Edmond Thorn is living in London:

RG9. P. 74  Fol. 11  Pg. 11

Living 33 East Street, Marylebone

Edmond Head  M  69  Boot maker  B.  Berks. Newbury
Hannah  Wife  M  59                       M. London Marylebone
Joseph  Son  25            ~       ~      B. Berks. Newbury

Edmond Thorn married Q2 1853 Westminster St. Margarets district.
Hannah Nutter on the same page.

Your GGG grandmother obviously died between census in 1851 and Q2. 1853 - but since I'm not sure where, and there are no ages on the death index at that time, I can't pin the record down.
Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott


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Re: Thorn family Newbury
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 18 June 08 14:50 BST (UK) »


Jan - can I just tell you - I've had a lot of help finding this data from another Rootschatter - Gadget - who pointed me at the Berkshire Marriage Index and also found Frederick in 1851 and Augustus' marriage.

Thanks Gadget  ;D
Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott

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Re: Thorn family Newbury
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 18 June 08 22:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Mum 44,

This is absolutely fabulous, thank you so much and also to you Gadget.

Now we can tie up some information on Edmund Thorn being in London, another family member had him living in 33 East Street, London, but we just couldn't see the connection at that time.

Lots of work in our tree to do now, thanks once again.

Jan
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Thorn family Newbury
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 07:15 BST (UK) »
Hi Mum 44,

Been busy, but there was just one thing I would like to ask you still.

Was wondering if you could assist me with Edmund Thorn b.1792, who his parents might be, and where they lived.   You mention a John Thorn in the 1851 census, being 75 years at North Croft Lane and Eliza aged 54 years.


Jan
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Thorn family Newbury
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 11:52 BST (UK) »

   You mention a John Thorn in the 1851 census, being 75 years at North Croft Lane and Eliza aged 54 years.

Hi Jan - can't spot this mention   :(   Which number post are you refering to  ???
Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott

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Re: Thorn family Newbury
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 01 July 08 17:21 BST (UK) »
1861 CENSUS:   RG9.  P. 720  Fol. 48  Pg. 21

Living Drummer, Newbury

Augustus  head  M  31  Shoemaker (Master)

Not quite - Augustus seems to be living a couple of houses along Northcroft Lane from The Drummer (aka The Drummers Arms).
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