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Death date, Victoria, please
« on: Tuesday 17 June 08 19:51 BST (UK) »
Hi
I'm seeking a death for Harriet Eliza BAYLEY, b 1848, UK.
Spouse was John Henry.
I've been led to believe she died circa 1913 in Victoria.

AND
May I also ask for a lookup for her mother, Lavinia BROWN.
No details on her, but its not a usual name.

Thanks in advance.
Grub ;)
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Re: Death date, Victoria, please
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 17 June 08 23:46 BST (UK) »
Hi Grub.

Harriet Eliza BAYLEY died aged 13 in Ardale in 1913.
Ref = 39
Parents  = Sam Brown & Lavinia FUDDY

But this does not look like the one you are wanting.  ???  :-\

For a death of Lavinia Brown, it is surprising how many there were. However, a Lavinia Brown, parents unknown, aged 71, died in Chewton in 1903, ref = 1114. Whether this is her is debatable of course.   :-\


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Re: Death date, Victoria, please
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 18 June 08 01:44 BST (UK) »
Hi folks

Dee that age at death (13) looks doubtful - if this was a married woman? Given both parent surnames are different to the death name - most likely she was married. The age could be a transcription error  ???

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Re: Death date, Victoria, please
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 18 June 08 02:08 BST (UK) »
Hi

I think it's a transcription error as well.

1903 & 1909 Victorian Electoral Rolls have her living with her husband at 55 & 53 Denbigh Rd, Armadale
John Henry's occupation is Draper.
Note: 1903 also as Amy Beatrice BAYLEY living with them at 55 Denbigh Rd.

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Re: Death date, Victoria, please
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 18 June 08 02:45 BST (UK) »
Thank you.
She was definitely in Armadale, and her husband was John Bayley, draper.  Amy Beatrice was on of their children, and I am familiar with the Denbigh Street address.

The below information was found on the Internet, and I wanted to confirm it before ordering a DC

DEATH: Death Certificate. Vict. Reg. No. 39, Age 63 in 1913 (Vict.BDM CD), estimating birth to be 1850. which is close to what you've given me, apart from the 13/63 age.

I have her birth certificate for 1848 in Camberwell, and her parents were Samuel Brown and Lavinia Huddy.

With this reference number, year of death and parental names, I should still be able to order a cert......right??

As for Lavinia, her husband was Samuel Brown.  She was "of age" when she and Sam married in 1838, but I've not been able to find them on 1841 or 1851 census.  Her father was named as George Huddy.

So, 1838, minus 21...born ~ 1817 or so...hmmmm

Thanks so much for your help.

Grub ;)


Bayley, Dorset, Lancashire, Yorkshire, Cheshire and others.
Antrobus, Somerset/Glouster
Skelton, Heslington, Yorkshire
James, Norfolk, and London
Delasalle, London area
Gravett/Grevet, Surrey
Also searching the above in Australia

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Re: Death date, Victoria, please
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 18 June 08 02:52 BST (UK) »
Hi Grub

With that number you can download a certificate   an image - this very minute  ;D  $AU17.50 - as you have the number - no need to pay for the search  :)

Trish

Edit: Sorry - should have given the link - http://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/home - Select "Purchase and download an image" - if you want a certified certificate - same information - you can order a certificate online

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Re: Death date, Victoria, please
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 18 June 08 03:00 BST (UK) »
Given that the informant for Harriet, knew her maiden name, if her mother died in 1903, unless they were estranged, I would assume the informant would have been Harriet and some information on parents would have been given. This is why I would be doubtful of the 1903 death.

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Re: Death date, Victoria, please
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 18 June 08 11:57 BST (UK) »
Hello  there Grub

I  had  him  down in  my  tree as  Henry John Bayley??   I  am  wondering  is  she is  buried with John  Henry  who  lived a long  life and died in 1931 at Armadale.

Would he be buried at St. Kilda??

you  may  have seen  this  birth  in Victoria 



Laura Brown born Prah in 1854 reg no 2096
father Samuel Brown and mother Lavinia Huddy

so  it would appear  the family  were in Australia  by then ;)


This death in 1923 in Victoria at Brighton
Louisa Jane Austin died aged 84 reg no 4467
father Samuel Brown mother Lavinia Huddy



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Re: Death date, Victoria, please
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 18 June 08 13:48 BST (UK) »
Thanks!!

I'll go ahead and order the 1913 cert with the info we have. :)

Jenn, his death certificate does say Henry John, but his birth cert defo says John Henry, and he is buried at St. Kilda, (died in Armadale.)

I appreciate the other births to Sam and Lavinia.  Searching for Brown on Victoria passenger lists is an uphill battle, but at least now I can narrow down their arrival date.

Grub ;)



Bayley, Dorset, Lancashire, Yorkshire, Cheshire and others.
Antrobus, Somerset/Glouster
Skelton, Heslington, Yorkshire
James, Norfolk, and London
Delasalle, London area
Gravett/Grevet, Surrey
Also searching the above in Australia

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