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Name Change of Illegit child MCMINN
« on: Sunday 22 June 08 10:07 BST (UK) »

I have the birth of David MacMinn illegit child of Jessie MacMinn born Dec 1861 so not in the census 61

In the 71 he is now David Halliday living as a lodger with a family in Ruthwell.

In those days could the authorities find out the name of the father? what systems were in place for changing the name.

Interestingly Jessie mcMinn in the 61 is a dairymaid on a farm with a John Halliday.

Can any one help me try to sort out this

Thanks Lis
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Re: Name Change of Illegit child MCMINN
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 22 June 08 16:10 BST (UK) »
What happened to Jessie between 1861-1871?

Did David remain as Halliday on later censuses or revert back to MacMinn?

What surname did he marry as?
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Re: Name Change of Illegit child MCMINN
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 22 June 08 18:24 BST (UK) »
Hi Lis

His marriage of death certificates might possibly give some details of his father if David married/died in Scotland.. These will be on the Scotlands People site www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk (Pay to view but reasonable and well worth it for the detail that the certs give compared with England and Wales).

There was no need to change his name legally. Many children where called by the name of their reputed father. 


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Re: Name Change of Illegit child MCMINN
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 22 June 08 18:29 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Other threads about David: David HALLIDAY Ruthwell and HALLIDAY in Ruthwell

It's also worth checking if there's an RCE (Register of Corrected Entries) attached to your David's birth. It should show in the left margin of the image from SP. This may tell you if John Halliday was found to be the father of the child.

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Re: Name Change of Illegit child MCMINN
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 22 June 08 18:41 BST (UK) »
Hi

This case is very similar to the case of my Grandfather.  He was born in Strathmiglo late in 1861 and was recorded as Albert James Dun, illegitimate son of Jessie Dun.  In the 1871 census he is named Albert Jackson, living with his grandparents, Jessie's mother and step-father, and thereafter he was known as Albert James Jackson.  On his English marriage certificate he described his father as Charles Jackson, manufacturer.  The 1861 census shows Charles Jackson, linen manufacturer, lodging in Strathmiglo with a woman, who was probably Jessie Dun's aunt, and not far from her parents.

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Re: Name Change of Illegit child MCMINN
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 22 June 08 18:50 BST (UK) »
To put us all out of our misery, The marriage of David Halliday to Jane Clark in 1887 records his father as

'Reputed father - John Halliday, farm servant'


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Added - Mother Jessie McMinn, domestic servant. Neither are recorded as 'deceased' at the time of the marriage.
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Re: Name Change of Illegit child MCMINN
« Reply #6 on: Monday 23 June 08 04:26 BST (UK) »


Thank you all. This is what I was hoping for, someone to agree that John Haliday is a possible father.

Interestingly in 1848 Jessie McMinn gave birth to daughter Mary Stuart father was John Stuart. I haven't found a marriage yet. Then many years later Jessie's son David's son David c 1890 used the name Stuart as a middle name for his daughter Margaret.

Thank you again for the wonderful support I feel I get from you all.

Lis



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