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Re: GERMANY: Familienbucher Oberrosbach v.d. Höhe & Grüningen look up offer
« Reply #27 on: Monday 13 September 10 08:08 BST (UK) »
Ok, well I have found your Storck/Grill family in Ober Rosbach as below:

Storck, Georg Henrich - Geburt (born) - 8 Dec 1779
                                   - Heirat (married) - 17 Aug 1798
                                   - Tod (died) - 9 Feb 1847
                                   - Occupation - ackermann (loosly translated - farmer of crops I think)
Grill, Anna Margretha  - Geburt (born) - 9 Mar 1780
                                   - Tod (died) - 21 Feb 1852

Children:
Gerhard Storck - born 7 Dec 1799
Anna Elisabetha Storck - born 12 Feb 1802
Johann Philipp Storck - born 9 Nov 1804
Katharina Elisabetha Storck - born 12 Jan 1807
Elisabetha Katharina Storck - born 15 Apr 1809
Maria Margretha Storck - born 11 Oct 1811
Johann Georg Storck - born 28 Oct 1813
Johannes Storck - born 13 Jan 1816
Georg Henrich Storck - born 2 Feb 1818
Johann Georg Storck - born 6 July 1821
Maria Margretha Storck - born 21 Dec 1823

There are marriage and death dates for at least 10 of the children, but not for Gerhard....is this your line? Did he end up somewhere other than Ober Rosbach??

What is even better is there are details on the parents of both Georg and his wife Anna  ;D

Georg Henrich Storck's parents were Anthon Storck and Anna Catharina Engel (there is info on their parents as well)

Anna Margetha Grill's parents were Johann Conrad Grill and Maria Dorothea Mattern (there is also information on their parents as well)

I am sooooooooooo happy that I have finally found someone's family in my little book!!!!!!!

I will keep looking for the other family and send you a PM as I imagine it may be easier for me to e-mail you the earlier generations as images rather than typing the whole thing out  ;D

Just had a thought.....perhaps we are relatives? I have Engel's in my tree.....will check that too!

Jenny
Clark, Sommerlad, Bowden, Barrett, Griffey, Sayers, Bridge, Walters, Pollard, Capel, Dibble, James, Lingard, Mensforth, Watts, Rutherford, Stainton, Chatterton, Tubbs, Thompson, Fulton, Booth, Sellwood, Edwards, Pitcher, Creech, Johns, Phillips, Roberts, Keast, Tregonning, Mason, Lancefield, Ibberson, Green, Case, Cook, Dunham, Porter, Pope, Hall, Welsh, Hellefield, Warburton, Fletcher, Foster, Stiles, Tait, Nicoll, Sutherland, McIntyre, Cole, Neal, Ladlow, Bellamy, Castleton, Barker, Yuill

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Re: GERMANY: Familienbucher Oberrosbach v.d. Höhe & Grüningen look up offer
« Reply #28 on: Monday 13 September 10 08:29 BST (UK) »
Well Cindy.....your Storck line goes back in Ober Rosbach to about 1645, the Grill line to about 1676, Mattern to 1674, and Engel to 1687!!!!

You have a pretty strong Ober-Rosbach connection there!!

I have taken photographs of the pages in the book for you as there is way too much to type  ;)

Just PM me your e-mail address and I can send them to you  ;D

I also have pictures of Ober Rosbach if you are interested in what the town looks like now!

Jenny
Clark, Sommerlad, Bowden, Barrett, Griffey, Sayers, Bridge, Walters, Pollard, Capel, Dibble, James, Lingard, Mensforth, Watts, Rutherford, Stainton, Chatterton, Tubbs, Thompson, Fulton, Booth, Sellwood, Edwards, Pitcher, Creech, Johns, Phillips, Roberts, Keast, Tregonning, Mason, Lancefield, Ibberson, Green, Case, Cook, Dunham, Porter, Pope, Hall, Welsh, Hellefield, Warburton, Fletcher, Foster, Stiles, Tait, Nicoll, Sutherland, McIntyre, Cole, Neal, Ladlow, Bellamy, Castleton, Barker, Yuill

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Re: GERMANY: Familienbucher Oberrosbach v.d. Höhe & Grüningen look up offer
« Reply #29 on: Monday 13 September 10 11:07 BST (UK) »
Quote from: CAHarris on Monday 13 September 10 07:19 BST (UK)

Hans Wilhelm Heinrich ENGEL married Cristina Dorothea WALLBURG.  One child, Dorothea Cristina ENGEL was born 30 Oct 1806.


Well I have had a good look in my Grüningen book and I cannot find the other family nor can I find them in the Ober Rosbach book  :-\

There are no Wallburg's at all, nor Whalburg or any other spelling I could think of. There are plenty of Engel's about in both Ober Rosbach and Grüningen but none that match Hans Wilhelm Heinrich Engel...

Interestingly I looked up my Engel's and they are from Grüningen whereas yours from the Storck/Grill line are from Ober Rosbach so perhaps we aren't related after all....through our Angel families anyway  ;)

Do you have any futher information on the family I can't locate?

Jenny
Clark, Sommerlad, Bowden, Barrett, Griffey, Sayers, Bridge, Walters, Pollard, Capel, Dibble, James, Lingard, Mensforth, Watts, Rutherford, Stainton, Chatterton, Tubbs, Thompson, Fulton, Booth, Sellwood, Edwards, Pitcher, Creech, Johns, Phillips, Roberts, Keast, Tregonning, Mason, Lancefield, Ibberson, Green, Case, Cook, Dunham, Porter, Pope, Hall, Welsh, Hellefield, Warburton, Fletcher, Foster, Stiles, Tait, Nicoll, Sutherland, McIntyre, Cole, Neal, Ladlow, Bellamy, Castleton, Barker, Yuill

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Re: GERMANY: Familienbucher Oberrosbach v.d. Höhe & Grüningen look up offer
« Reply #30 on: Monday 13 September 10 11:22 BST (UK) »
Hey Cindy,

I found a marriage for what looks like your Dorothea Cristina Engel's brother Heinrich Ludwig Engel on Family Search as below:

Heinrich Ludwig Engel aged 25yrs (born abt 1816)
married: 31 May 1841 at Ockstadt
Sophia Stroehlein aged 30yrs (born abt 1811)
Groom's parents: Wilhelm Heinrich Engel & Christiane Dorothea Wollburg
Bride's parents: Joseph Stroehlein & Catharina Elisabetha Jacobi

Hope this helps  ;)

Jen
Clark, Sommerlad, Bowden, Barrett, Griffey, Sayers, Bridge, Walters, Pollard, Capel, Dibble, James, Lingard, Mensforth, Watts, Rutherford, Stainton, Chatterton, Tubbs, Thompson, Fulton, Booth, Sellwood, Edwards, Pitcher, Creech, Johns, Phillips, Roberts, Keast, Tregonning, Mason, Lancefield, Ibberson, Green, Case, Cook, Dunham, Porter, Pope, Hall, Welsh, Hellefield, Warburton, Fletcher, Foster, Stiles, Tait, Nicoll, Sutherland, McIntyre, Cole, Neal, Ladlow, Bellamy, Castleton, Barker, Yuill

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Re: GERMANY: Familienbucher Oberrosbach v.d. Höhe & Grüningen look up offer
« Reply #31 on: Monday 13 September 10 22:15 BST (UK) »
Jenny,

I would love to have pics of Ober Rosbach.

FYI - my direct line goes like this:

My mom
My grandmother Dorothy May Snyder Lane (b. 1907 Idaho)
Henry George Snyder (b. 1872 Ober Rosbach)
son of Johannes Schneider (b. 1847 Busenborn, Schotten) & Maria Katharina Storck (b. 1840 Ober Rosbach)

Maria Katharina Storck (b. 1840) was the daughter of Johann Philipp Storck (b. 1804 Ober Rosbach) and Dorothy Cristina Engel (b. 1806 Ober Rosbach).

I was wondering how you got a copy of the Familienbuch.  Is it possible to purchase one?

Cheers,
Cindy
England: Austin, Bridcutt, Cartwright, Coldwell, Hill, Hunt, Jones, Littlefield, Mitchell, Power, Silverwood, Wheeler
England>New Zealand: Farrer, Godfrey, Harris, Hart, Rogers
Germany: Kunders/Conard, Schneider, Sell, Sick, Sten, Storck, Strauch, Wallburg
Scotland: Campbell, Moscrip, Henderson
US: Buffington, Jacoby, Kinder, Lane, Price, Riggs, Selby, Savage, Spannagel, Tallman, Thompson, Waldo, Werntz

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Re: GERMANY: Familienbucher Oberrosbach v.d. Höhe & Grüningen look up offer
« Reply #32 on: Monday 13 September 10 22:59 BST (UK) »
Hello Cindy!

Thank you for e-mailing me I am off to work now, but when I get back in tonight I will e-mail you the info and some pictures of Ober Rosbach  ;)

Thanks for the information on your line...now I can see why I can't find Dorothy Christina Engel's family. The page in the book that shows Johann Philipp Storck and his wife Dorotea says that she was born in 1804 but in Deckenbach....not sure where that is, but it gives you a lead at least!

Storck, Johann Philipp - born 9 Nov 1804 Ober Rosbach
                                  - married 20 Oct 1835 Ober Rosbach
                                  - Died 10 Dec 1869 Ober Rosbach
                                  - Occupation - Küfermeister, Ackermann (Master Cooper/Farmer)
Engel, Dorotea Christiane Lisette - born 26 Nov 1806 Deckenbach
                                                      - died 8 Feb 1876 Ober Rosbach

Children (all born Ober Rosbach)
Lisette Susanne Storck - born 25 Mar 1836
Georg Heinrich Storck - born 18 Apr 1838
Maria Katharina Storck - born 14 Oct 1840
Elisabetha Storck - born 14 Feb 1845

Maria Katharina Storck and Johannes Schneider are in the book too (I will send you the page), it looks like Maria Katharina Storck also had an illegitimate child with a fellow named Franz Joseph Wolf in 1864, did you know about this child?

I was lucky enough to purchase a copy of the book through an Antique Dealer in Bonn, Germany. It was published in 1987 and I do not know if copies are still available anywhere, but you may be lucky and come across one as I did  ;D

More to follow!

Jenny
Clark, Sommerlad, Bowden, Barrett, Griffey, Sayers, Bridge, Walters, Pollard, Capel, Dibble, James, Lingard, Mensforth, Watts, Rutherford, Stainton, Chatterton, Tubbs, Thompson, Fulton, Booth, Sellwood, Edwards, Pitcher, Creech, Johns, Phillips, Roberts, Keast, Tregonning, Mason, Lancefield, Ibberson, Green, Case, Cook, Dunham, Porter, Pope, Hall, Welsh, Hellefield, Warburton, Fletcher, Foster, Stiles, Tait, Nicoll, Sutherland, McIntyre, Cole, Neal, Ladlow, Bellamy, Castleton, Barker, Yuill

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Re: GERMANY: Familienbucher Oberrosbach v.d. Höhe & Grüningen look up offer
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 14 September 10 10:41 BST (UK) »
Righto Cindy, probably easier for me to type up the Schneider's as there is not a great deal of information on them:

Schneider, Johannes - born 1 Oct 1847 Busenborn
                          (I am not completely sure if the mention of Busenborn is his birthplace or his workplace)
                                  - married 28 April 1872 Ober Rosbach
                                  - died (unknown)
                                  - occupation - Ackermann (farmer) *Busenborn (not sure what the * means)
Storck, Maria Katharina - born 14 Oct 1840 Ober Rosbach
                                      - died (unknown)

Children (all born Ober Rosbach):
Georg Heinrich Schneider - born 24 Sept 1872
Elisabethe Schneider - born 14 Apr 1874
Maria Margarethe Schneider - born 14 Oct 1875
Wilhelm Schneider - born 12 Apr 1878
Lisette Susanne Schneider - born 4 Sept 1880 - died 28 Nov 1880
Caroline Schneider - born 18 Jun 1883 - died 5 Feb 1886

There are no details further back for Johannes Schneider as he was born outside the town and there are no details of descendants of this family....I am assuming that this is because the family emigrated to the USA? Did they come to Idaho sometime after 1886?

Hope this helps somewhat  ;)

I have e-mailed the first installment of Storck family history too....Ober Rosbach style  ;D

Jenny
Clark, Sommerlad, Bowden, Barrett, Griffey, Sayers, Bridge, Walters, Pollard, Capel, Dibble, James, Lingard, Mensforth, Watts, Rutherford, Stainton, Chatterton, Tubbs, Thompson, Fulton, Booth, Sellwood, Edwards, Pitcher, Creech, Johns, Phillips, Roberts, Keast, Tregonning, Mason, Lancefield, Ibberson, Green, Case, Cook, Dunham, Porter, Pope, Hall, Welsh, Hellefield, Warburton, Fletcher, Foster, Stiles, Tait, Nicoll, Sutherland, McIntyre, Cole, Neal, Ladlow, Bellamy, Castleton, Barker, Yuill

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Re: GERMANY: Familienbucher Oberrosbach v.d. Höhe & Grüningen look up offer
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 15 September 10 10:15 BST (UK) »
Just realised that I forgot the illegitimate child.....whoops  ;)

Maria Katharina Storck (b 14 Oct 1840 Ober Rosbach) appears to have had a son:
Johann Philipp Wolf - born 19 Feb 1864 Ober Rosbach

The father is claimed to be:
Franz Joseph Wolf (no birth or death dates) it states though that he is a Hornist (translated to Bugler or Horn player) in Homburg. It also appears to state that he was born in Kirdorf

Perhaps Franz Joseph Wolf was in the army? or travelling through Ober Rosbach for some other reason? It does not give any other details for the son (marriage or death dates). Does the son show up in the family that went to America?

Hope that helps a bit  :)

Jenny
Clark, Sommerlad, Bowden, Barrett, Griffey, Sayers, Bridge, Walters, Pollard, Capel, Dibble, James, Lingard, Mensforth, Watts, Rutherford, Stainton, Chatterton, Tubbs, Thompson, Fulton, Booth, Sellwood, Edwards, Pitcher, Creech, Johns, Phillips, Roberts, Keast, Tregonning, Mason, Lancefield, Ibberson, Green, Case, Cook, Dunham, Porter, Pope, Hall, Welsh, Hellefield, Warburton, Fletcher, Foster, Stiles, Tait, Nicoll, Sutherland, McIntyre, Cole, Neal, Ladlow, Bellamy, Castleton, Barker, Yuill

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Re: GERMANY: Familienbucher Oberrosbach v.d. Höhe & Grüningen look up offer
« Reply #35 on: Saturday 03 March 12 17:29 GMT (UK) »
Jen,
 Just found your post re: family lookup in Ober Rosbach. Fabulous offer. Thanks so much in advance.  My great grand father's family was from Obber Rosbach. His name was Leonardt Herdt . He had a brother named Carl.  Leonhart immigrated to the US in 1870 but his brother Carl stayed in Germany. Leonhart was born Dec 4 1851 in Ober Rosbach.

Anything that might appear in the document that you have relating to the Herdt family would be appreciated. No German spoken here so a translation is kindly appreciated.
Rick Hermann
Nixa MO
Herdt; Sabath; Hermann;Ax;Rahn; Buschmann;McGaw;
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