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Which registration district?
« on: Sunday 29 June 08 18:04 BST (UK) »
Elizabeth Calderwood nee Gilmore born 1841 states her place of birth as Plessy on one census and Stannington on another. Which registration district should I be looking in?   I am having difficulty finding her.

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Re: Which registration district?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 29 June 08 18:12 BST (UK) »
Hi Granger,

Stannington would come under Castle Ward:
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/Reg/districts/castle%20ward.html

Plessy I think was (is?) in the parish of Stannington  :)
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Re: Which registration district?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 29 June 08 23:36 BST (UK) »
Hi Granger

Just to confirm Tati's thoughts - Plessey (now with an extra 'e') is in Stannington.

Morpeth Register office is the one you need.

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Re: Which registration district?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 30 June 08 00:05 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the info...I can't find her birth but I have a marriage for her in 1866 in Newcastle upon Tyne.  If I get a family member in the UK to buy the certificate where in Newcastle would that be and would it have her maiden name listed?   


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Re: Which registration district?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 30 June 08 12:02 BST (UK) »


A few snippets....

The area Plessey (once Plessy) was named after Norman French landowners.. the de Plessis family, who came over with the Conqueror. ( You can see how the French silent "s" at end, allowed us natives to corrupt the name tp PLESSY !)

And yes it lay within the ancient parish of Stannington.

And for Civil Registration purposes from 1st July 1837 ( 171 yrs ago tomorrow... I must get a life ! ) Plessey lay within the widespread Registration District of Castle Ward ( which skirted Newcastle to the west and north)

In 1936 The RD of Castle Ward was abolished, it's area and existing registers were split  between Newcastle City and Northumberland Central Reg Districts. Stannington area's records went to Northumberland Central, which is situated in the town of Morpeth.

To look further, see interesting maps on Plasshe(Speed's1610 map)Plasey/Plassey (Armstrong's 1769 map) and Plessey
( Fryer's 1820 map) on the web site Northumberland Communities

( at communities.northumberland.gov.uk)

Plessey was site for several very early "bell" coal pits, worked by just a handful of men ( bell from the shape of the hole they dug)

A renowned coal waggonway, ran from Plessey to Blyth harbour. Today one of Blyth's main roads, Plessey Road, lies on bed of the waggonway.
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Census enumerators were instructed to record people's "place of birth" OR "parish of birth". So if Mary was born in Plessey, then Stannington was a correct recording ( It is interesting, well to me anyway, that census forms at right hand side were not headed "Place of Birth", but " Where Born".. enuf)

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With Gilmore (and variations) not been a very common name
( rooted in Scotland) her birth registered within Castle Ward should in theory be fairly easy to find !

Unles..... Gilmore was not her birth name.

So to cut a long story short...............

Likely Scenario (but needs to be corroborated...


Birth Registration
Castle Eden December Qtr 1841
ELIZABETH ROBINSON

Marriage Registration
Newcastle 1862
ELIZABETH ROBINSON marries NEIL GILMOUR
St John's Parish Church


Marriage Registration
Newcastle 1866 St Peter's
ELIZABETH ROBINSON ]
                                    ] married Robert H Calderwood
ELIZABETH GILMORE    ]


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(Marriage records from the Newcastle Register Office web site)



Hope this fits in !

Michael Dixon
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Re: Which registration district?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 30 June 08 12:23 BST (UK) »
Your explanations make this board really special - love it!  8)
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Re: Which registration district?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 30 June 08 12:49 BST (UK) »
Tati,

Merci for you reply.  I love the little snippets myself (but I sometimes get called
"gobsh*t*"  )

And my birth-colliery, Bebside was fairly close to Plessey, so I prick up my eyes ( or is it my ears ? ) when I see Plessey etc

Michael Dixon
Names.

GALLAGHER ( + variations).
Areas. Co Sligo, Co Leitrim, Co Mayo. IRELAND.
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Lowell, Ma, USA
Counties of Northumberland & Durham, ENGLAND
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MALEY/MELIA/MALLEY  - with or without " O "
Westport Co Mayo. Northumberland
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DIXON
Cumberland.. Brampton, Carlisle, ENGLAND

Census information is Crown Copyright. from www.nationalarchives.

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« Reply #7 on: Monday 30 June 08 13:20 BST (UK) »
Thanks a million Michael....I only started my family search in 1990 when I found out I was going to be living in the USA.   Tried to do as much as I could before I left on my fathers side now I am attempting my mothers.....  I used to take my children to play in Plessey Woods and I never knew the history of the name.     Thanks.

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« Reply #8 on: Monday 30 June 08 17:55 BST (UK) »


My playgrounds on the River Blyth were the "Halfpenny Woods" and Humford Woods (which had the great extra draw of stepping stones .)

Michael Dixon
Names.

GALLAGHER ( + variations).
Areas. Co Sligo, Co Leitrim, Co Mayo. IRELAND.
Ontario, CANADA
Lowell, Ma, USA
Counties of Northumberland & Durham, ENGLAND
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MALEY/MELIA/MALLEY  - with or without " O "
Westport Co Mayo. Northumberland
-------------------------------------------------------------------
DIXON
Cumberland.. Brampton, Carlisle, ENGLAND

Census information is Crown Copyright. from www.nationalarchives.