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Smith Brothers To Australia
« on: Monday 30 June 08 04:40 BST (UK) »
Hiya all,
Now I dont expect any form of quick answer here  (Espcially with the surname Smith)
but im trying to track down some relations who went off to Australia sometime in 1910 or thereabouts

The two names are
Thomas J Smith Born 1886 Islington North London
Arthur E Smith Born 1888 Islington North London

I can find both of the brothers in the 1901 census, So I know definatly they were still in the UK then as Thomas was working as a telegraphic messenger for the GNR and Arthur's occupation was 'Undefined'

Now two snippits of info that could be misleading One of them worked in the 'punchbowl yards' and they both possibly came accrosss on the 'Aerial'

Now-  the big qestion - Where to search next? as im running out of info and leads

Rob
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Re: Smith Brothers To Australia
« Reply #1 on: Monday 30 June 08 05:20 BST (UK) »
Could we have their parents names please....helps identify in the indexes?...and their full given names.

Cando
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Re: Smith Brothers To Australia
« Reply #2 on: Monday 30 June 08 05:51 BST (UK) »
Their dad was Thomas Smith, born 1863 in Essax (Presume Essex!)
Mum Margaret Alice Blake Born  1868 in Islington

Middle initals im not too sure about - sorry!
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Re: Smith Brothers To Australia
« Reply #3 on: Monday 30 June 08 06:00 BST (UK) »
This could be Thomas's death in New South Wales
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/search.htm

Reg# 4976  Yr 1922     
SMITH     Thomas J
Father Thomas J   Mother Margaret A
District      Annandale

You can purchase a transcription of the death cert which would give you further info - $16/17

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/howToSearch.htm#TranscriptionAgent

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Re: Smith Brothers To Australia
« Reply #4 on: Monday 30 June 08 06:37 BST (UK) »
Hi,
If we are on the right track, ARTHUR ERNEST SMITH enlisted in ww1.and you can read his service record.
Although his age seems a couple of years out from your records, this man's mother is his Next of Kin and her name is Margaret Alice Smith, still living in London, where he was born.
He enlisted in Dubbo NSW and was a railway fettler.
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Re: Smith Brothers To Australia
« Reply #5 on: Monday 30 June 08 06:51 BST (UK) »
Just spotted a likely THOMAS JOHN SMITH in the same records.
His age is correct according to your information and he gives father Thomas as Next of KIn.
Good for us, that his address is the same as for Arthur's NOK, his mother, so it looks as if we have the brothers.[ the mother Margaret's name is actually crossd out on Thomas' record!]
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Re: Smith Brothers To Australia
« Reply #6 on: Monday 30 June 08 10:37 BST (UK) »
Blimey Ladies and Gentlemen,

Im seriously impressed!
I thought I would be barking up a long hard tree and you great people have given me fresh hope!

Now the Mothers name being crossed does tie up with some family fokelore where ther was 'bad blood' between the brothers and the rest of the family...

A very impressed Rob
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Re: Smith Brothers To Australia
« Reply #7 on: Monday 30 June 08 12:33 BST (UK) »
OOooo, Rob

" Now the Mothers name being crossed does tie up with some family fokelore where ther was 'bad blood' between the brothers and the rest of the family...
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Now, have you looked at the records yourself?
 Tell us more of the 'differences'.

I think it would a fair guess that the Punchbowl yards you mention as place of employment for Arthur was the Railway Yards, but was Thomas John {CLERK} also employed there?
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Re: Smith Brothers To Australia
« Reply #8 on: Monday 30 June 08 13:35 BST (UK) »
Hi

And a bit more

Reg# 29925   1970     
SMITH     Arthur Ernest     
Father Thomas John    Mother Margaret Alice
District Bankstown

and
http://www.rootsweb.com/~nswsdps/dpsindex.htm

SMITH   Arthur Ernest   Death notice   
7 Aug1970   Death   81    late of Belmore   
Sydney Morning Herald   8 Aug 1970   

There is a facility on the website to request a lookup of the notice.

This could be your Arthur Ernest as he was a railway worker on the WW1 service record

Australian Electoral Roll NSW
1930 and 1936
SMITH Arthur Ernest Cobar, York Street, Belmore  Occ  Fettler
SMITH Mary Lillian Cobar, York Street, Belmore  Occ Home duties

Street number added in 1936 - 45 York Street, Belmore

and a possible marriage

Reg# 1469  1919     
SMITH      Arthur E
GREATREX  Mary L    
District Burwood

Cheers
Cando




 
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