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Re: Traveller musicians
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 05 March 09 22:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Found this one only today:

James Bishop, Retired Musician, Father in Law. Aged 77 born Trowbridge Wilts.

He was in a Caravan in St Andrews Plymouth in 1871 RG10/2120/108/51

Sorry I can't read the name of the family he was living with.
Midlands:Bayliss, Clemo, Eburn, Evans, Finney, Mayo, Morris, Rhead, Shutt, Upton, Waterhouse, Woodward, Wright, Woolley, Wyatt, 
Devon: Gillard, Jenkins, Manfield, Morrish, Palk, Salter, Shire, Scorse, Summers, Wood,
Dorset:  Fudge, Roberts,Trowbridge,
Montgomeryshire: Evans
Norfolk: Bond, Everard, Riches,
Somerset:Clothier, Hockey, Jenkins, Shire
Ireland:Mihill, Woodward, Zumach
Scotland:Lewis
Travellers:Cooper, Davies, Hughes, Manley, Orchard, Penfold, Roberts, Small, Wells/Wills

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Re: Traveller musicians
« Reply #28 on: Friday 06 March 09 00:02 GMT (UK) »
A very nice find, and many thanks for bringing it to my attention. There are a bunch of interesting familes living in the vicinity, and I'm wondering if it was the occasion of a fair. In tracing him backwards I couldn't find him in 1841, but hit upon a fascinating location, namely the Middlesex Pauper Lunatic Asylum at Hayes, which included one street musician and a number of hawkers.

My best to all,


Keith

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Re: Traveller musicians
« Reply #29 on: Friday 06 March 09 11:49 GMT (UK) »
And another one:

James Carr aged 22 Visitor, musician. Living in a caravan in Pruhoe, Northumberland. He was born in Yorkshire.

RG10/5143/66/48

Hope he is as interesting as the last one I found (beginners luck!)
Midlands:Bayliss, Clemo, Eburn, Evans, Finney, Mayo, Morris, Rhead, Shutt, Upton, Waterhouse, Woodward, Wright, Woolley, Wyatt, 
Devon: Gillard, Jenkins, Manfield, Morrish, Palk, Salter, Shire, Scorse, Summers, Wood,
Dorset:  Fudge, Roberts,Trowbridge,
Montgomeryshire: Evans
Norfolk: Bond, Everard, Riches,
Somerset:Clothier, Hockey, Jenkins, Shire
Ireland:Mihill, Woodward, Zumach
Scotland:Lewis
Travellers:Cooper, Davies, Hughes, Manley, Orchard, Penfold, Roberts, Small, Wells/Wills

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Re: Traveller musicians
« Reply #30 on: Friday 06 March 09 12:04 GMT (UK) »
Thanks to S and Gaille for the responses. Look forward to details of the musicians in Bollington.


Keith


I had a flick thru again last night - I have a few names for you, not finished yet tho.

LOL just wish I could find MY Catherine Mc'Cree while I am looking!!!!

Gaille
Manchester – Bate(s) / Bebbington / Coppock or Coppart / Evans / Mitchell / Prince / Smith

Cheshire Latchford – Bibby / Savage / Smith.
Cheshire Macclesfield,  Bollington & Rainow – Childs / Flint / Mc'rea
Cheshire Crewe – Bate(s) / Bebbington
Shropshire Wellington, Wobwell – Smith
Walsall Midds – Smith
Norfolk - Childs / Hanwell / Smith

Also looking for:
Mc'Rea/McCrea – Ireland to Cheshire

And
any relatives of Margaret Bibby married to Thomas Smith all over country

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Re: Traveller musicians
« Reply #31 on: Friday 06 March 09 12:17 GMT (UK) »
And some more (well sort of)

 Kezia Saunders, Musicians wife aged 46  born in Notts   
   and her kids : Mezzino Son aged 14,     
                          Wallice Son  12 
                           Lonser Son 4 

No sign of the musician himself.

All living in a Caravan, Leicester St Margarets. RG10/3272/43/13
Midlands:Bayliss, Clemo, Eburn, Evans, Finney, Mayo, Morris, Rhead, Shutt, Upton, Waterhouse, Woodward, Wright, Woolley, Wyatt, 
Devon: Gillard, Jenkins, Manfield, Morrish, Palk, Salter, Shire, Scorse, Summers, Wood,
Dorset:  Fudge, Roberts,Trowbridge,
Montgomeryshire: Evans
Norfolk: Bond, Everard, Riches,
Somerset:Clothier, Hockey, Jenkins, Shire
Ireland:Mihill, Woodward, Zumach
Scotland:Lewis
Travellers:Cooper, Davies, Hughes, Manley, Orchard, Penfold, Roberts, Small, Wells/Wills

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Re: Traveller musicians
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 11 March 09 20:34 GMT (UK) »
Hello All

I’ve just joined and I have  come across many travelling musicians as I am tracing my family which originally came from Italy.

From my own tree the original ancestor from Italy was a musician on the birth cert of his son born 1844 in Pembroke and again with another son in 1852 in Carmarthen, both places of course in Wales.   He had two more children one born in 1842 in Conway North Wales and another child in Haverfordwest so he definitely was travelling around.

When searching for members of my family I have come across single and groups of travelling musicians from Italy in the early census returns of 1841 and 1851 in all parts of the UK.

I have often wondered whether they were travelling fairs, circus, or theatres?

Steven
Devote/o/i/a/ee - Italy - PembrokeMorris - Pembroke Dock 1786Wignall - London - 1800JonesMaesteg

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Re: Traveller musicians
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 12 March 09 09:26 GMT (UK) »
Name: Edward Draper
Age: 19
Date of Offence: 25th October 1865
Offence: Assaulting one James Randall and violently stealing from his person one purse, one handkerchief and 18 shillings and sixpence in money, at Luton on the 17th Oct. 1864.
Sentence: 9 Calendar Months Hard Labour
Type of trial: Bedfordshire Quarter Sessions

Personal details
Height: 5 ft 8 ¾ inches Hair colour: Dark
Eye colour: Dark
Visage: Oval Complexion:
Sallow Identifying marks: Scars on each knee, mole left side of nose, the gypsy cast of features.
Trade or occupation: Gypsy fiddler
 Education: Neither
Marriage status: Single
 Number of children: Unknown Religion: None
Residence details
Birth town: Wheathampstead Birth country: England Residence parish: no fixed place
TENETT BUCKLAND & PLATO BUCKLAND ( MY LINEAGE)
  Buckland Smith James Stanley Lovell Loveridge Lee Cooper Penfold/Pinfold Orchard Boswell Broadway Wells
 
AREAS OF INTEREST CORNWALL DEVON

USA   Worton Stanley Joles Cooper  Jeffrey Small
 all English lines of Roms who are found in America

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Re: Traveller musicians
« Reply #34 on: Monday 15 June 09 16:03 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I'm researching one of my past lives as the daughter of musicians in the 1800's.  I have the place, at least for a period of time, narrowed down to County Cork, Ireland, and although I have no specific information that we were Travellers, it seems quite likely, and I would like to look into this a little further.  Do you have any information on Traveller musicians in County Cork in the 1800's?

Thank you,

Barbara

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Re: Traveller musicians
« Reply #35 on: Monday 15 June 09 19:03 BST (UK) »
Have you any names or further details Barbara?


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