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Re: WHITTLE family fairground connection
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 13 July 08 15:29 BST (UK) »
hi

i spoke to my parents and my grandfather was

Thomas William Whittle, born around 1910

My parents confirmed the relationship to the Whittle family fairground, but it goes way back. 

The Whittle coat of arms

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Re: WHITTLE family fairground connection
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 13 July 08 15:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Perry

Who were Thomas William Whittle's (1910) parents?

deb :)
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: WHITTLE family fairground connection
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 13 July 08 17:14 BST (UK) »

hi

This was on National Archives ....


VARIOUS PHOTOGRAPHS RELATED TO STEAM ENGINES, FAIRGROVES AND HORSES

Reference 1087
Covering dates 1882-1957
Held by Greater Manchester County Record Office



G.A. Whittle & Sons. Chariot Racing. Written on back- "G. A. Whittle's Burrell 'Princess Morg' at Old Deer Park, Richmond, Surrey, on Sun. 9th April, 1939. Copyright A.C. Durant.  1087/20  1939


Contents:
Negative Sheet Number T44/33


a photo ...how great ! I wonder if you can order a copy online?

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: WHITTLE family fairground connection
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 13 July 08 18:05 BST (UK) »
Hi again

AT LAST!!! I have found them in 1871 ... there was quite a gap between George b 1866 and Mabel Alice b 1880 ...

so this may be the missing children , who would be the missing aunts and uncles of Edwina's mother-in-law.

1871
Uxbridge, Hillingdon
2 Canal Street
Emma WITTLE head mar 28 Boatman's wife b Hillingdon
Mary ALLOWAY dau 9 ...she nust be Mary Ann/Margaret who married Wm Grafton
Eliza ALLOWAY dau 6
George ALLOWAY 6 ( aka George Whittle)
Hannah WITTLE dau 4months
all born Hillingdon

a few houses away ... Jane Alloway widow, 60 b Uxbridge

deb

so it seems that possibly Emma Whittle/Alloway was married prior.
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: WHITTLE family fairground connection
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 13 July 08 22:32 BST (UK) »
G. A. Whittle's Burrell 'Princess Morg' at Old Deer Park, Richmond, Surrey, on Sun. 9th April, 1939.

this ties in with what i have been told, Richmond was a key area for the family during that period

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Re: WHITTLE family fairground connection
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 15 July 08 20:57 BST (UK) »
 :) Interesting, Perry. I've also done some more internet browsing!

A young girl called Olivia WHITTLE was the carnival queen in Hayes (London Borough of Hillingdon) recently. She is a showman's daughter.

http://www.hillingdontimes.co.uk/mostpopular.var.2380173.mostcommented.shire_horses_for_hayes_carnival.php

I would so like to find some history of the WHITTLE fairground, and find out where my husband's 19th century ancestors fit in.

Perhaps Alfred or young George became showmen.

Deb - Thanks for all your research. Very much appreciated. Hannah WHITTLE did not live long. On freeBMD she died Dec q 1871.

Based on experience in my own tree, I wonder if Emma ALLOWAY and George WHITTLE had a couple of children before they were married, especially if he was away on his boat sometimes :o. I'll try to persuade my husband to order a few birth certificates, so we can confirm / eliminate some of the possibilities on freeBMD.

Thanks for all your interest, folks.  8)

Edwina

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Re: WHITTLE family fairground connection
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 16 July 08 18:28 BST (UK) »
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I think I may be getting somewhere - but my husband has to want to get the certificates before I can check  ;)!

on freeBMD I have found an 1889 marriage between George WHITTLE and Lavinia SMITH in Holborn district. (remember there was an 'uncle George' in my husband's tree.)

1) WHITTLE and SMITH are surnames that occur together as joint owners on at least one of the showground sites I have looked at.
2) On one of the resources listed in this section of Rootschat, (Romany chat, perhaps?) there is also a girl called Chelmsford Daisy WHITTLE christened in Walton-on-Thames in 1904. Parents George and Lavinia.
3) On freeBMD she was born as Chelmer Daisy WHITTLE in the Chelmsford, Essex Registration district.

A travelling family, or what?

Might be Uncle George...

Edwina  ;D

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Re: WHITTLE family fairground connection
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 16 July 08 18:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Edwina

I have been looking into the Hickey family of Richmond...

I found this;

In 1901 there is a James Hickey, 41 boiler maker b Leeds married to a Rebecca, 37 b Suffolk, They have the following children:
Amanda BRADLEY 18
Albert HICKEY 13
James HICKEY 11
William HICKEY 9
Bernard HICKEY 7
all living in Richmond Surrey

In 1891 they have a Kate Whittle, 20 living with them

I found this marriage;
Henry Inkerman BRADLEY = Rebecca WHITTLE in 1882

I have not been able to find her marriage to James Hickey the boiler maker yet.

deb :)
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: WHITTLE family fairground connection
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 16 July 08 19:12 BST (UK) »
Hi again, Deb,

Well, the plot is definitely thickening.

It looks as if Rebecca and James might have been living anywhere when they got married, then. Shows how far they travelled. Kate WHITTLE looks promising.

Thanks for this. Will have some thinks and might be back in a few days.

Edwina  :D