Ships to NZ 1838

[Thamesite2017]

Another thought, ??already covered, when did he die?
Does death cert/MI give exact time in NZ
Obituary in newspaper???

Bye
Althea 

[Charlie08]

He died on the the 28th July 1895. That is the information I have got from the LDS. Have only just started on this so have no death or marriage certificates yet.

[Mk2_Zephyr]

Get his death certificate, will provide some good info.

 


 and he probably landed in Russell or even Hokianga !

[DotBrennan]

Hi Charlie

Just a word of caution. 
The entry on the IGI is submitted by a member, therefore not necessarily correct.

There appear to be many Robert BRUCE’s in NZ about that time.
Here’s a few more death entries that could be him….
Apr 74, Wellington
Sep 76, Auckland
Apr 84, Auckland
Jul 94, Auckland.

Bren.

[Thamesite2017]

Hi Charlie08
You may think we are strange starting with the death but can often give you best clues and work backwards

There are appears to be an early ROBERT BRUCE buried near Kaikohe
Source   NZSG Cemetery Fiche
Record Number   56
Record Type   B/R
Year of Death   N/R
Surname   BRUCE
Given Names   Robert
Age   N/R
Location   Kohukohu Burial Records A04-13
Good places to start looking for cem info is
http://fhr.kiwicelts.com/Cemeteries/NZ_Cem_Northland.html

The wife may have been morelikely buried at her marae.

Getting this info will more accurately get you the arrival year
Bye
Althea

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If you look more at the LDS submissions that gave you the clue on the marriage to Robert Bruce,
they believe that this Robert Bruce was born in NZ
Birth:   Abt. 1820   
  <Waimate North, Bay Of Islands, New Zealand>

A tree was started 2003 on this family at world connect
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2376775&id=I513515209

Re the cemetery, if you can get to a Library and look at the NZSG fiche

the number for this cemetery AWARUA is ul064
Location: Mangakahia Rd, Awarua
Council: Far North District
Province: Northland
Administration: Maori, Mormon




   
   
   
   

[Charlie08]

Thank you all so much for your help. He is buried  at Mangakahia RD,near Kaikohe. Will get some closer family to go and check out the gravesite for more information.
I have his father as James Bruce who marrried Agnes Henderson.on the 24th Jan 1806 at Leith South parish Scotland. I have found 6 other siblings, William, Jane Agnes,Walter and Henry.
I will try and get a copy of his marriage and death certificates.

I really appreciate all the help given. It is a bit daunting starting this but so adddictive too.

[Mk2_Zephyr]

Not much info on the marriages in those days, 

Go for the death, but make sure you are working from known backwards, ie make sure the Bruce is yours, 

[tepua88]

Kia ora tatou:  Robert Bruce is buried at a cemetry named Te Pua, on Managakahia Road, Kaikohe.  The lane access to the cemetry is almost directly across the road from Kohewhata Marae.  He has a very nice kohatu with a Scotch Thistle on it.  If wanting to visit, any of the homes around the marae area will direct you to the cemetry, as it is not visible from the road.
The whanau of Te Haua Witehira put out a book some years ago for their reunion and that book gives a good overview of Robert Bruce and his wife Hikirangi, amongst other whanau informatiion.  I have a copy of a letter writtten to the War Office by Robert Bruce, enquiring after his medal.  As a youngster I attended whanau hui where this medal was discussed with gusto, although its whereabouts seems a mystery.  The whanau have one photo of him (he would have been quite old, as he has an almost grey beard) and most of the older whanau members (like me) have a copyh of this.
I have a copy of Hikirangi's death certificate.  I believe she is actually interred at Ngawha Settlement at the church there, where her second partner, Kauwhata, is also buried. 
It's my belief that Robert Bruce came to NZ with his mother, Agnes Henderson and she became a laundress at the Waimate North Mission House.  He must have fought in the Maori Wars.  He had children to Hikirangi - all were registered at the Waimate North Mission House.  However, I believe that his daughter Agnes (who married Witehira) was the only one who had issue. 

[tepua88]

I share this info with you, as locally, the whanau - the Witehira whanau who are well-known in Kaikohe and Mataraua - collectively have reasonably good information on this ancestor.  Other local whanau who can whakapapa to Robert Bruce are:  Tau, Ashby, WiHongi - and there are plenty of us around Kaikohe!