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Re: Why did a pork Butcher just sell pork?
« Reply #9 on: Friday 01 August 08 15:40 BST (UK) »
NOT Sweeney Todd ?? :o :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Why did a pork Butcher just sell pork?
« Reply #10 on: Friday 01 August 08 15:45 BST (UK) »
One and the same, Diddy  ;D
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Re: Why did a pork Butcher just sell pork?
« Reply #11 on: Friday 01 August 08 15:58 BST (UK) »
There was still a Pork Butchers in Macclesfield when we left in 1979 - very good it was too - they made 'ham burgers' and they were delicious.
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Re: Why did a pork Butcher just sell pork?
« Reply #12 on: Friday 01 August 08 23:55 BST (UK) »
I have an ancestor who was a pork butcher. Looking at Google, it seems, as the name suggests, that a pork butcher sold all things pork related. But why? Didn't they have beef or poultry? Or were there beef and poultry butchers too?

Does anyone know the answer?
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My great grandfather was a pork butcher and I was always under the impression (mostly gained from my mother - who got it from my grandmother) that he wasn't a butcher as in selling pork - but that he was a butcher as in a kind of slaughterman...and possibly he used to keep pigs too (but I'm not 100% sure on that bit).   I googled it a while back and I'm sure I read something which confirmed the difference between a "pork butcher" and a "pork seller".    I'll have a look and see if I can find it again.

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Re: Why did a pork Butcher just sell pork?
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 02 August 08 00:08 BST (UK) »
 ??? ???  Maybe I was mis-informed (whoever heard of that happening in old family history tales!!). I'm a bit confused now...   This book seems to suggest a pork butcher is a shopkeeper of some kind who sold pork-stuff and also dairy produce if they wanted to.   Maybe it can be both. :-\


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I'm going to have to investigate more now ::) ::) ::)

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Re: Why did a pork Butcher just sell pork?
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 02 August 08 19:37 BST (UK) »
To all of you who have replied......thank you very much. All of it has been really helpful and so interesting. My pork butcher ancestor was a lady of 76!

Beverley
Leics-Sharp/Baker/Underwood
Marylebone-Osborne/Tod(d)
Herts- Sear, Cato
Bucks/ Beds-Impey/Field/Hall
Herefordshire-Smallman
Glos-Poole/Byard/Smallman
Middx-Kemp/Harris/Perrin/Lee/Cooper/Morrell
Middx-Ballard
Berks-Ballard
Wilts-Ballard
Hammersmith, Middx-Cranstone
Surrey/Middx-Jux
Villemagne, France- Perrin
Dunning, Perthshire-Tod/Niven
Dorset- Tod/d
Milner- Neenton, Shropshire
Edwards- Neenton, Shropshire
Poultney/Beswick-Kidderminster, Worcs

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Re: Why did a pork Butcher just sell pork?
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 02 August 08 20:20 BST (UK) »
Hmmm, a lady of 76 :-\

I doubt that she swung the pole ax  ;D

She most likely just sold the products and had someone else do the "wet work".

Was her son a butcher perchance? The trade does run in families.
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Re: Why did a pork Butcher just sell pork?
« Reply #16 on: Monday 04 August 08 11:25 BST (UK) »
I seem to have got myself in a muddle here. I'm positive she was a lady of 76 that was the pork butcher and that she was on my Dad's side of the family....this is for sure as Dad was 76 at the time, and I remember him saying she must have been a tough old lady. Sadly I can only find one pork butcher in Dad's file and she was 39, which is more like it I guess. I'm convinced I do have one of 76 though....can't ask Dad either, as he lost his fight with cancer in December. I'll hav to keep hunting.
Leics-Sharp/Baker/Underwood
Marylebone-Osborne/Tod(d)
Herts- Sear, Cato
Bucks/ Beds-Impey/Field/Hall
Herefordshire-Smallman
Glos-Poole/Byard/Smallman
Middx-Kemp/Harris/Perrin/Lee/Cooper/Morrell
Middx-Ballard
Berks-Ballard
Wilts-Ballard
Hammersmith, Middx-Cranstone
Surrey/Middx-Jux
Villemagne, France- Perrin
Dunning, Perthshire-Tod/Niven
Dorset- Tod/d
Milner- Neenton, Shropshire
Edwards- Neenton, Shropshire
Poultney/Beswick-Kidderminster, Worcs

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Re: Why did a pork Butcher just sell pork?
« Reply #17 on: Monday 04 August 08 16:55 BST (UK) »
Beverley,

Where and when did this lady live?

Since about 1875 The Ministry of Health controlled licenses for Slaughtering.
Private slaughter houses were not allowed in many cities and towns so most butchers then either had their animals shipped to a Public Slaughter House and the carcases delivered to the shop or bought carcases from wholesalers.
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