Cathayb,ive been looking through my tree and on ancestry/Genes Reunited site to try and find a few things,ill post it here just in case then try the personal message next time.Ive got some of my Ayres ancestors,but they sound far too settled to be travellers.William Ayres b1790 living bethnel green,london, occ.weaver.birthplace unknown,first marriage Martha Robinson b 1790,place unknown,second marriage Mary Wells b1797 place unknown.Williams sons are william b shoreditch,london 1814.occ.furniture dealer,wife eliza cowley b1814 e.london.kids are eliza 1835,emily,1838,susannah,1840,elizabeth1842,frederick1846,mary1848,ann1850,henry1853,henrietta1855,george1858,edmond1861,all born east london.Williams second son is Henry b1817,,bethnel green,third is george b1821 bethnel green,he marries elizabeth robinson b1818 place unknown(another robinson)her parents are william robinson b1795 bethnel green,weaver,martha b1795 birthplace unknown.Georges kids are mary,1838,william,1841,george,1844,elastic cord maker,henry1846,elizabeth1862,all in bethnel green.George marries alice loring 1874,bethnel green,their kids are george 1891 who marries elizabeth watson b1890,place unknown,alice1892 who marries jack brown b1890 place unknown,alice1893 who marries frederick cassidy birthplace unknown,florence1898 who marries frederick adams b1898b/p unknown,dundonald b1900,ernest b1902,marries cissy wells(another one)b1897b/p unknown,hilda b1906,dot b1908,jenny b1910 all bethnel green.Elizabeth( 1862)marriesjames eldridge,b1859,bethnel green.packing case maker,kids hilda b1877,elizabeth who marries harry coveney b1885,james b1888,william1894,leonard1894. James eldridges parents robert b1828 b/g,shoemaker journeyman,mary slater b1830 place unknown'Robert eldridges father thomas was born norwich,mother unknown.Mary slater also married frederick chapman b1842 b/g.these sound far to settled to be travellers,and im sure that weaver wasnt a romany occupation,but you never know.The louisa fisher i mentioned earlier was born sittingbourne 1842,charwoman on 1861,on 1851 shes at crown yard,sittingbourne with father richard b1802,murston,brickfield labourer,mother jane coppings b c1823 faversham,charwoman.cant find a richard fisher that fits on 1841,and the only possibility for jane is jane coppins,b1826 faversham,living at st.annes cross pub,faversham with samuel smith b1801,hawker,martha smith b1797,john smith b1817, thomas weller b1761,labourer(still working at 80)andmary weller b1771.One of my main family lines is coppins,but it has many variations generally,and about five different spellings in my tree,including coppin,cappin,capper,copper,copping/s,.My gggg grandfather was a tinman/smith from high halden ,kent.On the 1841 he was daniel copping,but for the rest of his life till he died at 97,he was coppins,His wife hester staples was coppins through her married life,but copping on her death certificate.Hello to deb usa,what you mentioned earlier about the sheppey marriage looks possible,the goldsmiths had a sheppy connection,and on one census samuel hughes first name had been crossed out and replaced with paul thomas.Im off to do a bit more searching but will be back soon,bye for now.
