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Thomas Jones
« on: Saturday 16 August 08 01:46 BST (UK) »
Hello
I am trying to track down my g grandfather and wife.
His name is Thomas Jones and his wife Jane.
In 1881 census they were living 6, Penuel Row Rhymney.
His age at that time was 26 as was Jane's.

Thomas was born in Tredomen Breconshire
Jane  was born in Abersychan.

In the 1881 census it also shows my grandfather Percy William Jones.

I have information on the 1891 and 1901 but I cannot find anything further back.

Any information/help would be just great.

Cheers
Avril ;)
Harper, Potter, Jones, Alcock, Woods, Martin, Thomas, Jenkins.
England, Ireland, Wales

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Re: Thomas Jones
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 16 August 08 12:34 BST (UK) »
This is a possible for 1871, but he is not consistant with age.

1871 - RG10 Piece 5582 Folio 25 Page 2
Top of steps Tredomen Cottage, Llanfilo, Breconshire

Thomas Jones 40  head, ag lab,  Blackmore
Catharine Jones 38 wife, Llan ? Brecon (possibly Llaneleu / Llanelieu)
Thomas Jones 14 son, Tredomen, Breconshire

Possible getting son Percy's birth cert for maiden name to find correct marriage, will confirm his father.  There is no real easy way with a common name, to know you are on correct track without confirming.

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Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Lewis - Ystradgynlias Breckonshire
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Yelland, Bray, Trethewey  - Cornwall

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Re: Thomas Jones
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 16 August 08 12:47 BST (UK) »
Same family (this area is within 2 miles of Tredomen)

1861 - RG9 Piece 4214 Folio 20 Page 2
Cottage, Llanfilo, Breconshire   
 
Thomas Jones 36  head ag lab, Herefordshire
Cathrine Jones 29 wife, Brecon Llanelieu
Thomas Jones 5 Llanfillo, Breconshire

http://www.genuki.org.uk/cgi-bin/places?BRE,SO120310,5,Tredomen

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Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Lewis - Ystradgynlias Breckonshire
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Yelland, Bray, Trethewey  - Cornwall

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Re: Thomas Jones
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 17 August 08 01:29 BST (UK) »
Hello Cas

Thanks for the quick reply.

I have got Percy's birth certificate and his mothers name is Janet, not Jane as I had said. It was always known as Jane.  I am sorry about that.

 Anyway unfortunately there is no father named only that some one had put Janet's name in there.  At the time of Percy's birth they were living at 6 Penuel Row Rhymney.

Janet was a domestic servant and sorry the Jones get everywhere - her name on the certificate was also Jones.

I have a marriage certificate showing Thomas and Jane(both Jones) married on 27th Dec 1880.

Thomas father was also named Thomas and at the time they were both labourers.

Janes father was named William and he was a contractor.

They married at the parish church in Rhymney.

Isn't it always the same old saying, "If only I had spent more time listening or asking questions when I was younger"


Again many thanks for the information that you have sent.

Cheers
Avril
Harper, Potter, Jones, Alcock, Woods, Martin, Thomas, Jenkins.
England, Ireland, Wales

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Re: Thomas Jones
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 17 August 08 13:10 BST (UK) »
Hi Avril,

Looks like the correct census details for Thomas, prior marriage.  I did see the marriage reg for both as Jones  :P.

It looks like Percy was born a few months before they married, so possibly he is the father, he would not possibly be included as they were not married then, see 'father' on link.

http://home.clara.net/dixons/Certificates/births.htm

Also Jane/Janet can be interchangable.

http://www.whatsinaname.net/php/search.php?action=search2&search_name=janet

Good luck with your research

Cas  :)
Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Lewis - Ystradgynlias Breckonshire
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Yelland, Bray, Trethewey  - Cornwall

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Re: Thomas Jones
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 17 August 08 21:10 BST (UK) »
Hello there Cas

Thankyou again.  Did you use BMD to find the marriage? ???

Cheers
Avril
Harper, Potter, Jones, Alcock, Woods, Martin, Thomas, Jenkins.
England, Ireland, Wales

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Re: Thomas Jones
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 17 August 08 21:12 BST (UK) »
Hi Avril

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Thought it maybe them, but discounted as it was after the birth.

Cas
Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Lewis - Ystradgynlias Breckonshire
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Yelland, Bray, Trethewey  - Cornwall