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Orkney 1881 Manson
« on: Saturday 23 August 08 08:20 BST (UK) »
I'm taking advantage of the free time on Lost Cousins to update names.

Need 1881 Orkney census for William Manson about 72 yo, and his wife Margaret who was maybe 2-3 yrs older.

Here is what family looked like in 1861 in Deepdale, Stromness:

William Manson  52   Farmer b. Pitsligo, Aberdeen
Margaret Manson  55  Wife  born Aberdeen, Aberdeen
Margaret Manson  30 dau  b. Pitsligo
William Manson  22 son   born Pitsligo
Ann Manson   17  dau  b. Pitsligo
Christina Manson  15  dau  b. Pitsligo

These are my 3rd grt grandparents, and I believe she died in 1885 and he about 1896.

Many thanks.

Nick
McLellan - Inverness
Greer - Renfrewshire
Manson - Aberdeen & Orkney
Simpson - Hereford, Devon, etc.
Flett - Orkney
Chisholm - Scotland
Wishart - Orkney
Shand - Aberdeen
Pirie - Aberdeen

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Re: Orkney 1881 Manson
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 23 August 08 12:24 BST (UK) »
1881  ??

Registration Number 174
Belhelvie
Aberdeenshire
Address Causeyend

William Manson age 72 born Rosehearty Aberdeen retired Farmer
Margaret wife age 14?? born St Nicholson Aberdeen  Farmers wife
James E Wilson age 14 grandson born Stromness Orkney


Pam
oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham.

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Re: Orkney 1881 Manson
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 23 August 08 12:39 BST (UK) »
1881

Registration Number 174
Address Hillhead Muirton


Belhelvie Aberdeenshire

Robert Hadden age 44 Aberdour Aberdeen Farmer of 78 acres employing 1 girl

Christina Hadden age 34 born Pitsligo Aberdeen Farmers wife
John son age 1 Belhelvie
Robert son age 5 months Belhelvie
Agnes Shand age 19 servant
David Watson age 15 servant


Also 1881

Registration Number 227B

Tyrie Aberdeenshire

44 Low Street

John Grieve age 41 New Pitsligo

Christina Grieve age 37 New Pitsligo
John son age 11 children born New Pitsligo
Whilimena dau age 9
James son age 6
Georgina dau age 4


1881

Registration Number 169
Aberdour Aberdeenshire


John Watt age 36 Fisherman and shoemaker Aberddour Aberdeenshire
Christina Watt age 36 born Pitsligo
Joseph son age 9
John Alen son age 7
Ritchie son age 3
James son age 4 months
Pam
oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham.

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Re: Orkney 1881 Manson
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 23 August 08 12:55 BST (UK) »
The 1871 if you haven't already got it confirms the orkney link

Deepdale, Stromness

William Manson,63, born Pitlsigo, farmer of 40 acres
Wife
Margaret Manson,65.

daughters

Margaret Manson,35
Christine Manson,23

Grandsons - John Burnett,10,scholar  & James England Urton,1 (this may be James aged 11 on 1881)

Georgina Campbell,16, domestic servant
Donald Davidson,19, farm servant
William Spence,17 , farm servant


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Re: Orkney 1881 Manson
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 23 August 08 13:09 BST (UK) »
Maybe a relation


1881

Registration Number 174

Belhelvie Aberdeenshire
Farmhouse Westburn

Alexander Manson age 47 all born Rosehearty Aberdeenshire Farmer 45 acres all arable
Margaret Manson wife age 44
Alexander J son age 21
Margaret dau age 18
William son age 15
James w son age 11
Christina dau age 9
Stewart son age 7
Mary C dau age 2
William Burnett age 20 servant Stromness Orkney

Pam
oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham.

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Re: Orkney 1881 Manson
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 23 August 08 13:20 BST (UK) »
1881
Registration Number 30
Stromness
Diepdale Orkney

John Manson age 39 Pitsligo Farmer 160 acres ar
May wife age 45 Stromness
John son age 17 Stromness
William son age 16 Stromness
Christopher son age 14 Stromness
Robert son age 12 Stromness
Alex son age 11 Stromness
Arthur son age 9 Stromness
May dau age 7 Stromnes
Emmilena dau age 5 Stromness
Margaret dau age 3 Stromness
Jane Scott age 17 servant
Helen Bews age 22 servant

Pam
oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham.

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Re: Orkney 1881 Manson
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 23 August 08 22:35 BST (UK) »
Pam and Falkyrn,

Thank you both very much for doing this.  It is going to take me a bit to wrap my head around it since it raises a lot of questions.  I didn't consider that they would go back to Aberdeen from Orkney.

I know the whole young family was in Pitsligo in 1841; heard years ago that they first moved to "Glebe of Birsay" in Orkney, but haven't found them in 1851; find them 1861 in Stromness as shown.

I hadn't followed any of his children except John who is my GG GF (shown in your last message), and have traced all his kids.

The two occurrences of the Burnett name are interesting since GG GF John's son Christopher traveled to Australia with an Alexander Burnett in 1889 (Chris. drowned off Queensland in 1896 (have detailed info).


The 1871 is a welcome bonus.  Reckon I will have to start tracing their other children with all this intriguing info.  :)

Off to parse all of this. Regards,

Nick
McLellan - Inverness
Greer - Renfrewshire
Manson - Aberdeen & Orkney
Simpson - Hereford, Devon, etc.
Flett - Orkney
Chisholm - Scotland
Wishart - Orkney
Shand - Aberdeen
Pirie - Aberdeen

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Re: Orkney 1881 Manson
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 24 August 08 05:33 BST (UK) »
Hi Pam,

Sorry I didn't specify this, but if not too much trouble, may I get the Volume/Registration number, Enumeration District #, and Page # for William in Aberdeen in 1881?  I need this for Lost Cousins.

I've spent much of today looking at Burnett children (Eliza Manson m'd Arthur Burnett and had 10-11 kids).  John England Wilson is the son (possibly illeg.)  of Christina Manson and Robert Wilson (which would explain her having maiden name in 1871.

John's middle name, England, is intriguing:  William's wife was Margaret Shand.  It appears that her parents were Robert Shand and Jane England.

Thanks,

Nick
McLellan - Inverness
Greer - Renfrewshire
Manson - Aberdeen & Orkney
Simpson - Hereford, Devon, etc.
Flett - Orkney
Chisholm - Scotland
Wishart - Orkney
Shand - Aberdeen
Pirie - Aberdeen

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Theology is never any help; it is searching in a dark cellar at midnight for a black cat that isn't there.   -Robert Heinlein

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Re: Orkney 1881 Manson
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 24 August 08 07:05 BST (UK) »
Hello

Scotland census

Registration Number 174
Registration District Belhelvie
County Aberdeenshire
ED 3
Household Schedule 37
Line 1


Born Rosehearty Aberdeenshire

No Volume number or page number for the Scottish census usually parish or registration numbers


Pam

oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham.

census information are crown copyright of www.nationalarchives.gov.uk