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Joseph Bird Family in Kent
« on: Thursday 27 January 05 17:19 GMT (UK) »
New to this board - hope someone can help me.  My grgrandfather, Joseph Bird Esq. of Dublin Ireland, was originally from Kent. Joseph disowned my grandfather at a tender age and we Canadian descendents have no idea about this side of the family.  (An Aunt made overtures about 40 years ago and was soundly rebuffed and told to shove off.) Would anyone have Joseph Bird appearing on any Census in Kent?  He was born in 1860 and married Edith Challen of Brighton in 1888 before they moved to Dublin.  Hoping someone can help me with this family mystery
Crawford: Dublin
Bird: Kent/Dublin/Canada<br />Challen:
Sussex/Dublin<br />Meekings, Cakebread, Bird, Stowe: London <br />Doherty, Hartnett, O'Leary, Doran, Nolte: Ireland/Canada <br />Profit, Blamey, Johns, Curgenvin, Fulpit, Ball: Cornwall
Brown:Herefordshire/Wales/Cornwall/Canada
Jones:Shrewsbury/Wales/Ireland/Canada
Pennefather: Ireland/Sussex,UK

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Re: Joseph Bird Family in Kent
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 27 January 05 17:36 GMT (UK) »
Welcome Brdtrd :)

I am moving your post to the Kent Lookup Requests Board, so that you get the best possible reponse to your request.

Rick :)
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Re: Joseph Bird Family in Kent
« Reply #2 on: Friday 28 January 05 15:55 GMT (UK) »
I've been looking for them in 1871 Census ... can't find Joseph yet ... have you got his father's name from his marriage certificate?

Tried looking for Edith Challen in Brighton, found this:

RG10/1086(or 1036)/54/3
85 King's Road, Brighton
William Challen, Head, 45, Jeweller & Silversmith
Mary Ann Challen, Wife, 49
Ernest Challen, Son, 14, Scholar, Brighton
Anny Louise Challen, Dau, 12, Scholar, Brighton
Edith Challen, Dau, 8, Scholar, Brighton
Arthur Byworth, Assistant, 21, Jewellers Assistant
Louisa Haughton, Servant, 20, General Servant

If you think this is yours, let me know and I can send you the image.

English Jen.
Letley, Kent/Anywhere ... Attempting a One Name Study.
Dunn, Yorkshire/Kent,
Garrett, Kent
Petyt, Yorkshre/Kent
Sheehan, Ireland/Kent
Summersett, Kent
Webb, Kent

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Re: Joseph Bird Family in Kent
« Reply #3 on: Friday 28 January 05 16:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jen - thanks for doing this for me!  I know your posting is mine!Edith Challen married my great grfather in Sept 1888, in Brighton.  And yes, would love to have the image.  Thanks!!!
I wish I had their marriage certificate - might be able to glean more info about Joseph.  The only info I have on him is that his name was Joseph Bird, from Kent.
Someone replied yesterday and found a George Bird in Beckenham with two sons, John and Joseph, which is promising.  My father's name was George.  I feel like I am so close but just can't seem to find supporting data on Joseph.  Brdtrd
Crawford: Dublin
Bird: Kent/Dublin/Canada<br />Challen:
Sussex/Dublin<br />Meekings, Cakebread, Bird, Stowe: London <br />Doherty, Hartnett, O'Leary, Doran, Nolte: Ireland/Canada <br />Profit, Blamey, Johns, Curgenvin, Fulpit, Ball: Cornwall
Brown:Herefordshire/Wales/Cornwall/Canada
Jones:Shrewsbury/Wales/Ireland/Canada
Pennefather: Ireland/Sussex,UK


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Re: Joseph Bird Family in Kent
« Reply #4 on: Friday 28 January 05 22:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I've sent you a PM.

Kind regards
Jen.
Letley, Kent/Anywhere ... Attempting a One Name Study.
Dunn, Yorkshire/Kent,
Garrett, Kent
Petyt, Yorkshre/Kent
Sheehan, Ireland/Kent
Summersett, Kent
Webb, Kent

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Re: Joseph Bird Family in Kent
« Reply #5 on: Friday 28 January 05 22:58 GMT (UK) »
If you are certain that the Joseph BIRD/Edith CHALLEN 1888 ref relates to your couple then you can order a marriage cert. for £7

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

Joseph BIRD
Edith CHALLEN
Brighton registration district
Sep quarter 1888 ref. 2b 360

Best wishes

Casalguidi
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Re: Joseph Bird Family in Kent
« Reply #6 on: Friday 28 January 05 23:10 GMT (UK) »
If you send someone a pm it is not posted in the reply section of your original post.
Joe
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Areas  Huddersfield, Brighouse, Rastrick ,Thirsk, Sand Hutton
Masters in London/Surrey
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Re: Joseph Bird Family in Kent
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 29 January 05 21:25 GMT (UK) »
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If you send someone a pm it is not posted in the reply section of your original post.
Joe

I know.  I posted in the reply section as Brdtrd is a newish member and I don't know if they know about PM's.
Letley, Kent/Anywhere ... Attempting a One Name Study.
Dunn, Yorkshire/Kent,
Garrett, Kent
Petyt, Yorkshre/Kent
Sheehan, Ireland/Kent
Summersett, Kent
Webb, Kent