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Missing William John Roberts b1855
« on: Monday 25 August 08 14:10 BST (UK) »
Hi have been lucky to fond most of My Anglesey /Denbighshire family, but have missed a William John Roberts, in both the 1881/1891 census.
Was found as a pupil in the 1871 in Abergele, but could he have gone to sea?
Born in 1855 at Hollyhead so it is possible, have seen the only close fit for him in the Cheshire 1901 census, as a  Merchant Sailor, and married to a Margaret.
Can any one help/suggest any thing to link these 2 people?
Regards Tim.
Family History, for Roberts, Vaughan, Edwards, Slack, Fyson, Rawson, Sharp, Rea, Bedford. Millner, Freeman, and the Clayton's of Adlington Lancs.

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Re: Missing William John Roberts b1855
« Reply #1 on: Monday 25 August 08 14:50 BST (UK) »
I have checked the CHESHIRE marriage records for him and a Margaret with a negative result, have you checked the Denbigh or North wales marriages?

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Re: Missing William John Roberts b1855
« Reply #2 on: Monday 25 August 08 15:34 BST (UK) »
hello, Tim,

Have you considered this family ?

1881 census
Rg11/3455 folio 78  page 9
Forest View cottage,  Fairfield,  Derbyshire

William Roberts  head  age 30   Quaryman    b  Holyhead  nth Wales
Lois  wife  age 30    b  Derbyshire  Dulwood
Sarah Jane  dau  age 3    b  ditto  Doveholes
Ethel  dau  age 1     b   ditto

1891 census
RG12/579  folio 27  page  5
10 Cravren Court  Settle  Yorks

William Roberts  head  age 40   Quarryman   b  Holyhead  Wales
Ethe  dau  age 11      b  Derbyshire  Doveholes
Edith  dau  age 9   b   ditto

RG12/2780  folio 133  page 51
Carlow ? Lane  Chapel on le Frith, Derbyshire

Thirza Oldfield  Head  W   b  Derbyshire  Elton
Lois Roberts  sister   M  age 40    Hosuewife  b  ditto

1901 census
Rg13/4021  folio  17  page 26
17, Craven cottgaes  Settle   Yorks

William Roberts  head  age 50   No occupation   Blind
Lois   wife  age 50   Laundress   b  Derbyshire  Elton
Sarah J  dau  age 23   b  Derbyshire  Wormhill
Edith  dau  age 19   b   ditto.

There are also another families

1891 census
RG12/579  folio 27  page  5
47 Cedar Bank  Reigate    Surrey

Willliam Roberts  hed  age 35   Hardware Traveller  b Wales  Holyhead
Annie  wife  age 28   b  London  Highgate
Gladys  dau  age 2  b  hasnts  Southampton
Frederick  W.  age 1   b  ditto

1901 census
Rg13/3467  folio 6  page 4
39, Tintern St  Kirkdate  Liverpool

William J. Roberts  hed  age 44  Master mariner Liverpool ?  b Holyhead  Anglesey
Mary E.  wife  age 42  b  Liverpool
Mary S  dau  age 7    b  ditto
Victoria E  dau age 4   b   ditto
Berwyn  son  age 2  b  ditto

1901 census
Rg13/3496  folio 88  page 25
3h 13ct Mason St, West Derby

William Roberts  head  age 49  Joiner  b  Holyhead  Wales
Jane  wife age 40   b Flint  Wales.

hope these are of help

Meliora
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Re: Missing William John Roberts b1855
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 20 January 11 11:45 GMT (UK) »
We recently found announcing the death (lost at sea) of William John Roberts Master Mariner.  Lost at 37 degrees 44 minutes South, 4 Degrees 50 Minutes West (SSW of Cape Town - mid Atlantic).

The card belonged to Mary Wareing (DOB 10 May 1922) - born USA , lived in Liverpool and married Albert George Wareing.

Stuart


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Re: Missing William John Roberts b1855
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 01 December 18 01:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi Stuart,
Do you have any information on Albert and Mary Wareing from that card you found?  Mary is my mother's cousin.  We visited her in England 25 years ago and lost her address and my mother always wanted to know what happened to her.

Thank you.

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Re: Missing William John Roberts b1855
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 01 December 18 08:00 GMT (UK) »
This looks like Albert

Births June quarter  1921   Albert G Wareing mmn Smith  W.Derby   

Albert George Wareing  Birth  16/04/1921  died 11/2003 East Devon Devon England

were they living in Devon when you visited?

She appears to be Mary H (from marriage 1952)

There is probate for a Mary Hilda, but no idea of age:
Mary Hilda Wareing  died 13th December 2010, probate at Bristol 18th March 2010

Looks to have been living in Swansea in the 1950's 

Is in family trees on Ancestry - worth trying to contact tree owners?