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Boer War - Damant's Horse and Cape Colony Cycle Corps
« on: Thursday 28 August 08 13:37 BST (UK) »
Hi:  I'm new to Rootschat, so just hope I'm in the right area!!

I've come across a couple of possible family members who were involved in the Boer War.

Trooper 38321 Frederick John Harry Archbell, Damant's Horse (aka Rimington Guides) died 26 March 1902.

Private 24968 Harry Archbell, Cape Colony Cycle Corps served 10 January 1901 to 16 April 1902

Does anyone have any idea if there are any records, other than at Kew.

I think they both originated in the UK, although there are Archbells resident in South Africa but I'm told that these two are probably not from the South African connection.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. 

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Re: Boer War - Damant's Horse and Cape Colony Cycle Corps
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 28 August 08 14:37 BST (UK) »
You will have to visit Kew or employ a researcher. There is hardly anything available online, and you must have seen the Roll of Honour entry for John Archbell to know the date of his death.

The 'papers' - usually only two sides - are in WO127, with an index in WO126, and the medal rolls are on microfilm in WO100.

Regarding the CCCC you must have some information as you have the dates he served. Where did you find this?

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Re: Boer War - Damant's Horse and Cape Colony Cycle Corps
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 28 August 08 16:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Ken:  I found both entries on http://hometown.aol.co.uk/tamsinasplin/  and then either RGDH.html or cccc.html

Just wondered if Kew was the only place to view these records.  I live in Tamworth, so not quite so easy to get down to Kew, and thought I'd see if there was an alternative.  If not, then I'll just add them to my list!

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Re: Boer War - Damant's Horse and Cape Colony Cycle Corps
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 28 August 08 16:14 BST (UK) »
What an amazing photo!

Do you know if they stayed on in South Africa? If so, the South African Public Records Office has good records available online.

http://www.national.archives.gov.za/naairs.htm

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Re: Boer War - Damant's Horse and Cape Colony Cycle Corps
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 28 August 08 16:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Meles:  well obviously Frederick John Harry did - next thing is to find out where he died!!  Not sure about Harry and your website wasn't able to help me.  I've got a friend in South Africa, so will see if she has any ideas, otherwise it's down to Kew!!

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Re: Boer War - Damant's Horse and Cape Colony Cycle Corps
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 28 August 08 16:54 BST (UK) »
I've got family there (whose ancestors also came out at that time), and visit most years. Let me know if I can help more.

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Brock: Alburgh, Norfolk, and after 1850, London; Tooley: Norfolk<br />Grimmer: Norfolk; Grimson: Norfolk<br />Harrison: London; Pollock<br />Dixon: Hampshire; Collins: Middx<br />Jeary: Norfolk; Davison: Norfolk<br />Rogers: London; Bartlett: London<br />Drew: Kent; Alden: Hants<br />Gamble: Yorkshire; Huntingford: East London

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Re: Boer War - Damant's Horse and Cape Colony Cycle Corps
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 28 August 08 17:14 BST (UK) »
Thanks Meles:  I'll bear that in mind.  Always good to have more than one string to one's bow!!

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Re: Boer War - Damant's Horse and Cape Colony Cycle Corps
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 28 August 08 17:47 BST (UK) »
Frederick John Harry .... next thing is to find out where he died!! ...

He died in Harrismith- http://www.roll-of-honour.com/Databases/BoerDetailed/index.html. I thought you had this.

I have to do a look up on the Damants Horse medal roll - I have a medal to one of their troopers. So I will look up Frederick. They earned an incredible amount of money. My man left with something like 250 for nine months service. Didn't do him much good though as he died a few months after his discharge. Most seem to have been locals, but the wages attracted a lot of men from UK, Canada, Australia etc who paid their own passage to SA and enlisted.

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Re: Boer War - Damant's Horse and Cape Colony Cycle Corps
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 28 August 08 19:17 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much Ken, no I didn't have this information.  I just had the basics.

Poor sod, so he didn't even die in battle!!  No glory in dying of enteric fever!!  Ah well.  Perhaps it's just as well.  I'm just reading the history of the Voortrekkers, not sure I could do it.  Another Archbell was a Wesleyan Missionery in South Africa, and he is quoted as "out-trekking the Voortrekkers", and this was 80 odd years before the Boer War.

Thanks

Sue
Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
Remember - "They'll be found when they want to be found" !!!
If you don't ask the question, you won't get an answer.
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Archbell - anywhere, any date
Kendall - WRY
Milner - WRY
Appleyard - WRY