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1861 census look up . Malet .plimlico
« on: Friday 05 September 08 22:59 BST (UK) »
hi could sks look up
Richard Malet aged 22 At 45 Sutherland st  in the 1861 census.
and any family members .
 he marries Isabella Milner Wharton  in St Gabriel's church Plimlico in Oct. 1861  .
so its just a guess that Sutherland st is in Plimlico.
also can anyone look up and see if,
 John Milner Wharton , bath attendant  (who i have in Thomas st.1861 census. ) has a doppleganger "gentleman "  John milner Wharton in Duke street . Grosvenor Square .
thanks it might clear up a mystery for me .
 Jan
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Re: 1861 census look up . Malet .plimlico
« Reply #1 on: Friday 05 September 08 23:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Jan

Can you please tell us what Richard's occupation was and who his father was named as on the marriage cert?

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Re: 1861 census look up . Malet .plimlico
« Reply #3 on: Friday 05 September 08 23:37 BST (UK) »
In 1871 there is an Agnes Wharton - a dressmaker in Duke Street
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Re: 1861 census look up . Malet .plimlico
« Reply #4 on: Friday 05 September 08 23:40 BST (UK) »
Ahh, thanks Heywood!
 ;D

So he names his father Colonel George Granville MALET.....

Jan, can you please clarify what you mean on the other topic,  "Richard Malet of Bombay". Is that the residence he gave when he married Isabella?
If so what was the Sutherland St address?
Do you have them in 1871 or later, Census?
What was his occupation?
Who were the witness' to the marriage?

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Re: 1861 census look up . Malet .plimlico
« Reply #5 on: Friday 05 September 08 23:48 BST (UK) »


First of all I had to look up Doppleganger ........  :D .... so in case anybody else is wondering ... here it is !!  :) :) :)

A double, an identical replica of a person. The idea behind this is that everyone has a Doppleganger, an identical copy of themselves somewhere in the world. If the person is good, then the Doppleganger will be evil and vice versa. It is even said that if the two should meet, then they will both perish.

Although there is no evidence that Dopplegangers exist, some people have actually reported claims of witnessing what they believe to be their Doppleganger. In all likelihood however, Dopplegangers are an aspect of myth only.

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Re: 1861 census look up . Malet .plimlico
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 06 September 08 01:24 BST (UK) »
there are odd Malets around b India but of course no Richard  ::)

Was he a soldier?
1861 RG9; Piece: 42; Folio: 100; Page: 16
There is a Capt Malet 23 yrs lodging at 27 Davies St - Capt Grenadier Guards - birthplace not completed.
He is lodging with a fishmonger which doesn't quite seem right somehow  ???
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Re: 1861 census look up . Malet .plimlico
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 06 September 08 01:41 BST (UK) »


I was looking at the other post ....

Col Malet was not present at the Charge of the Light Brigade .... I'll check though to see if he was at Balaklava

And I think the certificate says Berwick Street ... which is in Soho ! ( which might change things a bit !! )

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Re: 1861 census look up . Malet .plimlico
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 06 September 08 04:59 BST (UK) »
Have been looking and looking for 45 Sutherland Street in Pimlico 1861....
Found the address in 1871.   Found at least 3 other families in 1871 on that street, who (by births of children) should be in Pimlico in 1861 but couldn't find any of them......then I found the following:

http://www.westminster.gov.uk/libraries/archives/family-history/census.cfm
"1861 census for the Pimlico and Belgravia areas of Westminster have not survived"  :'(  :'(  :'(

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