Badger & McDonagh marriage

[ammeneedia]

Never heard mention of Ballinasloe, Turloughmore and Annaghdown are the Health Board Districts.
Copied below to show some PLU (Poor Law Union) DED (District Electoral Divisions) for that area. NOTE for example Townlands in Annaghdown Parish are in Different PLU's and DED's.

PLU   DED                   Parish               Townland
Galway   Annaghdown   Annaghdown   Addergoole
Tuam   Killower                   Annaghdown   Bunatober
Tuam   Killower                   Annaghdown   Cahermorris
Tuam   Killower                   Annaghdown   Cluidrevagh
Tuam   Annaghdown   Annaghdown   Tumnahalla
Tuam   Killower                   Belclare   Caltragh
Tuam   Killower                   Belclare   Carheens
Galway   Claregalway   Claregalway   Claregalway
Galway   Claregalway   Claregalway   Gortadooey
Galway   Claregalway   Claregalway   Gortcloonmore
Galway   Claregalway   Claregalway   Kiniska
Galway   Claregalway   Claregalway   Knockdoemore
Galway   Claregalway   Claregalway   Mullacutra
Galway   Claregalway   Claregalway   Waterdale
Galway   Lackaghbeg   Claregalway   Kiltrogue West
Tuam   Killower   Cummer   Glennaneeny
Tuam   Ballinduff   Kilcoona   Kilgarriff
Tuam   Killower   Killower   Caltragh
Tuam   Annaghdown   Kilmoylan   Anbally
Tuam   Annaghdown   Kilmoylan   Cahervoley
Galway   Lisheenavalla   Lackagh   Grange East
Galway   Lisheenavalla   Lackagh   Grange West
Galway   Lackaghbeg   Lackagh   Crusheeny
Galway   Lackaghbeg   Lackagh   Kiltrogue East
Galway   Lackaghbeg   Lackagh   Kiltrogue West
Galway   Lackaghbeg   Lackagh   Lackaghbeg
Galway   Lackaghbeg   Lackagh   Lackaghmore
Galway   Lackaghbeg   Lackagh   Cahershilleeny

[shanew147]

I think I see where the differences are - the Lackagh you are referring to is the Civil Parish ,the one I mentioned is the townland..

the townland database shows

Townland / Barony/Civil Parish/PLU

 Lackagh          /   Kilconnell    / Killallaghtan    / Ballinasloe
 Lackagh More /        Clare       / Lackagh         / Galway    

I think it would be worth ordering the Civil marriage cert as it might include the details you are looking for.


Shane

[ammeneedia]

Shane

Townlands close to "Lackagh Church" are "Lackaghbeg" and "Lackaghmore" . No townland called "Lackagh" in this area. The Church is built i believe in the townland of "Carranoneen". The other Lackagh you are referring to is a Townland situated 25 Miles apart.

Ger

[shanew147]

my mistake - I missed that you were looking at Lackagh Parish

I would still recommend ordering a Civil Cert as they were supposed to  include all the legal details (including father), whereas the level of detail included in the parish register was up to the priest/parish. Some of the register films I've looked only included date, bride and groom - no addresses, parents or witnesses, others included father, mothers, etc

it is possible that the fathers name was not provided for the Civil register either, e.g. if deceased, but generally the names are included.


Shane

[simonjm]

Yes, I have attempted to order the marriage certificate from the GRO in Roscommon, but they could find no record, despite me giving the exact date and place, taken directly from the Lackagh church register. According to the Church register Michael BADGER and Winnifred McDONAGH married 03/11/1879. Searches were done under both BADGER and McDONAGH, but no corresponding marriages were found. So the only explanation is that their marriage was not registered.

[shanew147]

I've seen where births and deaths were not registered  but  I have not come across a missing marriage registration in my own ancestors yet... 

The only other reason I can think of is that the record is in the late registrations section of the index - at the back of the book, or even recorded in a later year.

do you know where Michael was born, or approx when ?

there are two Michael Badger baptism records listed on the Co. Galway section of the Irish Roots site - for 1849 and 1853, which fit the timeframe. They are both in the Lackagh parish (RC).


Shane

[simonjm]

Shane,

Sorry for delay in reply. I have checked both William Badger's birth details. The 1849 one was the son of William and the other was the son of Michael. You can see my predicament- with both births being quite close together, without the father's name from the marriage certificate (which was never registered) I am unlikely to confirm his parentage further. To be fair, I imagine that both were related somehow anyway.

[Mr J T Arthur]

A lot of certificates get missed out of the indexes and unfortunately only the indexes are checked, it may be in the index of the local office though. Another possibility is the priest was late in sending the certificate and it was registered in a later quarter which appears to be the case in a certificate I have where the date of registration was a number of months later than the date of the marriage.

Good luck,
J.T.A.