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Thomas Smith and Mary Brown
« on: Monday 08 September 08 20:48 BST (UK) »
This pair are stumping me.

Thomas Smith b.cir 1825-30 supposedly at Skillington Lincs, married Mary Brown b.cir 1830-1 (place unknown).

They had a daughter Deliah in 1848 at Ludborough who married Samuel Gray the s/o Christopher and Maria in 1871 at Horncastle. This Deliah also appears to have been baptised at Theddlethorpe St Helens in 1848.

It seems possible that Thomas Smith was one of the children of William Smith and Ann Elliot, as I found a very promising looking marriage, taking place after Deliahs birth.

23.04.1849 Wrawby By Brigg, Thomas Smith s/o William married Mary Brown d/o Thomas.

Their other children were:

Mercy b.1852 Theddlethorpe St Helens - there appears to be two baptisms for her, one in Spilsby in 1852, and as Morsey in 1853 at Theddlethorpe.

Mary Ann b.1854 Mavis Enderby, married David Rollingson in 1872 at Horncastle

Rebecca b.1856 Spilsby married Godfrey Goddard in 1875

Jane in 1860

Stephen in 1863 Horncastle, married Isabella Pierce/Pearce

John 1865

Walter c.1866 at Wainfleet, and also apparently again in 1866 at Melton Ross.

George 1868

Abigail 1872

Theresa 1875 Burringham. Poss baptised 1876 Bottesford d/o John & Mary 'Gypsies of Ashby'.

Can anyone shed any light on these folks?

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Re: Thomas Smith and Mary Brown
« Reply #1 on: Monday 08 September 08 20:50 BST (UK) »
oh and I meant to add there is a Harry Brown c.1856 Wainfleet who married a Theresa and had a son Hezekiah baptised in 1900 at Louth..... I would love to know if that is the Theresa Smith named above.....

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Re: Thomas Smith and Mary Brown
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 11 September 08 19:29 BST (UK) »
hi An65

Have been looking for your people ...

I am not sure if this is your Thomas in 1851 but thought I would post ...he is single...

Sleaford, dogdyke
Ann Smith head mar 65 chair wooman (sic) b Estraparochal Adjamy Dogdyke
Thomas Smith son b 1829 Estraparochal Adjamy Dogdyke, Lincolnshire
George Thomas son 35         "
I was wonder if Ann = Ann Elliott

further up the road is another SMITH family

deb
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Thomas Smith and Mary Brown
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 11 September 08 19:38 BST (UK) »
More and more and more I think Thomas is a son of William and Ann.......

Who were the other smith family?


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Re: Thomas Smith and Mary Brown
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 11 September 08 20:03 BST (UK) »
okay ...other Smiths;

Edward SMITH head mar 45 ag lab b Quarrington
Martha wife 41 b Carmathanshire
George son 16 b N Kyme
Edwin son 11 b Harts Ground Lincs
Eliza dau 6  b      "
Herbert son 4 b N Kyme
Meretea dau 2 b Dogdyke
Martha dau 4 months b Dogdyke

deb
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Thomas Smith and Mary Brown
« Reply #5 on: Friday 12 September 08 13:33 BST (UK) »
Hi An65

Still searching ... found this;

Marriage; all these names on same page:

Jun q 1904 Doncaster
vol 9c p1293

Christopher Elliott
John Arthur Elliott
Mary Anne Mills
Abigail Smith

coincidence or what?  ;D

deb
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Thomas Smith and Mary Brown
« Reply #6 on: Friday 12 September 08 14:08 BST (UK) »
Hi again

Okay ..have a theory on Rebecca Goddard nee Smith b 1856

She married Godfrey Goddard in 1875 ..I can't find them in 1881 but in 1891 I see this;

1891
65 Queen St, Louth
Thomas ELLIOTT head mar 36 horse dealer b Lincs
REBECCA ELLIOTT wife 35 b Horncastle
Sharlott dau 11 Barrow on Humber
Mercy dau 9 b Lincoln
Sam son 6 b Timberland ??

deaths: Note death q and year
Godfrey Goddard abt 1853  sept q 1877 Horncastle 7a 310
Godfrey Goddard abt 1877  sept q 1877 Horncastle 7a 310
Godfrey Goddard  sept q  1877 Horncastle  7a 310
Think the last one is a repeat as on the original we only see the fisrt two.

okay then this marriage;
Rebecca GODDARD = Thomas ELLIOTT
Mar q 1892 Horncastle
vol 7a o 746

what do you think ?? I will search further

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Thomas Smith and Mary Brown
« Reply #7 on: Friday 12 September 08 14:21 BST (UK) »
1901
Louth
1Monk Dyke rd
Thomas Elliott head mar 43 horse dealer b Cumbersworth lincs
Rebeckah wife 42 lic hawker b Ashby horncastle
mercy Elliott dau 18 b Lincoln
Samuel Elliott son 17 groom (not domestic) b Walkath?

2 Monk Dyke rd
fred SMITH head mar 27 ?? man b Alford
Easter Smith wife 28 b Aust?? Lincs
Albert son 3 b Louth
fred son 1 b Louth

3 Monk Dyke st
Anna Smith head 55 hawker b Spilsby
Elder Smith father 77 mar cloths pegg maker b Spilsby
Ethel dau 13 b Horncastle
charlotte dau 3 b Grimsby?
Betsy dau 1   b      "

deb
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Thomas Smith and Mary Brown
« Reply #8 on: Friday 12 September 08 14:45 BST (UK) »
In 1901 Charlotte Elliott, 22 , single b Barrow, is a servant for Joseph Drayton , a licensed victualler for the Blue Bell Inn, 378 Victoria St, great Grimsby.

I am still looking for them in 1881 ... can't Spot any biths yet.

deb
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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