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Re: Thomas Smith and Mary Brown
« Reply #27 on: Friday 12 September 08 19:58 BST (UK) »
Onto Thomas Elliot b.1855 Cumberworth (ish)

he is listed as a grandson of Edward Elliot, and Edward Elliot married Martha (believed to be a Smith).

he married first a Sarah J, and then Rebecca Goddard nee Smith d/o Thomas & Mary.

Now also travelling with this family are John Smith b.cir 1835 with sons Edward b.cir 1863 Louth and Richard b.cir 1868 Louth. which nicely corresponds with John Smith and Julia who had Edwin b.cir 1864 Sheffield and Richard b.cir 1869 Carlton on another Census.

Also with them is a Sarah Brown b.cir 1842 Wootton.

John Smith and Julia also seem to hang about with one Lucy Brown b.cir 1822-30 Aichester? /Hardcastle Nthants who lived in the Hogsthorpe/Alford area.

Now I already had a bit on her: Shes the wife/widow of Sampson Brown b.cir 1822, and they had children called
Samson, Priscilla, Negekiah/Ezekial, Sarah, Nitabella, Joseph, Wilhelmina (who married a Mr Wild)  ELDRED and Arthur.

In the 1841 cr this lot are recorded as hanging about with some Booths. Mary Booth b.cir 1800, Elohim (great name!) Keziah, Tobias and John.

Given the apparent closeness of the Smiths Elliots and Browns (and the Grays) I wouldnt be at all suprised to discover that this lot are my long lost relations.





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Re: Thomas Smith and Mary Brown
« Reply #28 on: Friday 12 September 08 20:16 BST (UK) »
Now Miseretta Heron had a sister, Tienna b.cir 1830 Billinghay. She died in 1852 at Grainthorpe, apparently as a result of a mad dog bite.

She married Stephen Pierce b.cir 1824 Westborough, a possible (probable) brother of Eldred Pierce/Winter/Smith.

This family are listed as living at Cagthorpe Horncastle in 1861, along with a Mary Elliot b.cir 1800 Willoughby Notts (I recognise that name/place).
She had her son Elijah with her he being born cir 1825 at Boston.

Now Mary Elliot was bapt 1803 at Willoughby Notts the daughter of John and Jemima, making her sister to Edward Elliot and my ancestor, Ann Elliot who married William Smith.

It has only just surfaced in my head that Mary = Polly!

Polly Elliot married Fowk Heron.

According to the Revd George Hall (in the JGLS) Fowk married Polly Elliot, and her brother Edward married Louisa Heron. Well obviously thats wrong for a start!.



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Re: Thomas Smith and Mary Brown
« Reply #29 on: Friday 12 September 08 20:22 BST (UK) »
Well reputedly (Revd Geo Hall again) this Louisa who married Edward Elliot had:

Tom James Elliot who married Perpagellion Heron and had Rodi (Rhoda) and Marenni.

and that dont werk........

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Re: Thomas Smith and Mary Brown
« Reply #30 on: Friday 12 September 08 21:18 BST (UK) »
An65

I have to leave you with it as I am off to the beach for the weekend ....

quick question;

Elder Smith is with daughter Ann in 1901 ..he says he is MARRIED so where is Miseretta Heron?

Also Anna is 55 ...would she still be having children at that age ... Betsy is 1 and Charlotte 3?

Glad you have found your rellies .... will work on the others when I get back

deb :)
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
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Re: Thomas Smith and Mary Brown
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 20 September 08 18:53 BST (UK) »
Miseretta Heron could well have been off visiting her folkis...

Still working on the Smiths here,

Now I am convinced that Thomas Smith who married Mary Brown was a son of William and Ann Smith, my direct ancestors (twice over) and have been fumbling about trying to find other children of William and Ann...

John Smith c.1836 Potter Hanworth s/o William & Ann, vagrants of Colston Leic (William always described himself as being of Coleorton Leic)

2 years later Christopher Smith is baptised in the same place with the same parents, and again described as being of Colston.

I have a feeling thats John Smith who married Julia and had Edwin/Edward and Robert.....

I also found a Ledday Smith d/o William and Ann at Threekingham in 1832.


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Re: Thomas Smith and Mary Brown
« Reply #32 on: Friday 19 February 21 10:57 GMT (UK) »
AN65

Good Morning.  Please forgive the intrusion but I'm new to this site and was just browsing through some of the posts when I came across this.
I am the great grandson of Steven and Isabella Smith. (Nee Pearce), so if your still interested in them I may be able to help.

Thank you
Cal

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Re: Thomas Smith and Mary Brown
« Reply #33 on: Friday 19 March 21 06:03 GMT (UK) »
Haven’t done any work on them for some years but would welcome any new information

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Re: Thomas Smith and Mary Brown
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 11 April 21 17:56 BST (UK) »
Hi, sorry for the delay in and  replying.

Stephen Smith and Isabella Pearce had 8 children.
Elias (1887 - 1942)
Lydia (1890 -1966)
Walter (1891 - 1964)
Grace + Mercy (Twins born in 1895. Mercy d 1972)
Harriet (1897 - d?)
Maria (1900 - 1967)
Arthur (1902 - 1976)
Stephen and Isabella lived in Barrow on Humber when Arthur was born and Stephen died there in 1905 (heart).  Isabella died in a house fire in Grimsby in 1937.
Neither Elias, Lydia, Walter or Harriet ever married or had children.
Grace and Mercy married their 1st cousins, George and Earnest Pearce respectively in a double ceremony.
Grace lived in Horncastle and I believe had 3 daughters, Margaret, Edna and ?.
Mercy lived in Grimsby and I believe had 2 or 3 sons and 4 daughters.
Maria married William Miller and had 2 sons, Walter and Earnest, and 2 daughters, Harriet and Ada.
Arthur, my maternal grandfather, married Emma Loftus (nee Cooley). Emma was a widow from WW1 and had 2 children, Edward and Syvia.
Arthur and Emma had a further 12 children, 4 boys and 8 girls.
Lydia (1920 - 2015)
Vina (1922 - 1931, drowned playing by the riverhead in Grimsby)
Mary Ann (1923 - 1976)
Stephen Charles (1925 - 2003)
Isabell (1926 - 2018)
Martin (1927 - 2019)
Louisa
Alice (1931 2012)
Arthur 1934 - 1934, died in infancy)
Ada
Margaret  my mother.
Nathaniel (1941 1993)

I hope this is of interest to you
Thank you
Cal.