Completed: Smith-Alsopp-Pegg - need help with my great x 3 grandmother

[bedfordshire boy]

I'm doubly thick! I'd forgotten I'd already given you the Pegg/Thompson marriage, and I'd also forgotten that Sarah Roberson was born in Elsworth Cambs

There's a marriage on 17 Jan 1804 at Elsworth between Samuel Pegg bachelor and Sarah Parnwell spinster, both otp. Witnesses John Pegg and William Pedley (per http://www.familyhistoryonline.net/)

I despair! I've just recalled that I've got the Elsworth transcript. I'll be back in a bit!!

David

[bedfordshire boy]

There's a Sarah Parnel dau of William and Sarah baptised at Elsworth on 1 Dec 1784

Samuel Pegg's 1804 marriage was the only Pegg entry in Elsworth

David

[Aulus]

Thanks again, David.

There's a submitted (and therefore dubious) record on the IGI has a baptism of a Sarah Parnwell 1st December 1784 in Elsworth.  Parents: William Parnwell & Sarah Bennet.

So it's good to have that confirmed by you from the PR transcription.

On the Cambridgeshire Burials database (familyhistoryonline/findmypast) there's a burial of a Samuel Pegg 14 Dec 1809 in Swavesey, Cambridgeshire., which is only about 5 miles away from St Ives.  That fits very nicely with the Samuel who's the father of William Pegg - his wife Sarah (Parnwell) remarries to James Robinson in 1812, which gives a terminus ante quem for Samuel's death.

[Aulus]

Just to complicate matters further, as if looking for a Mary Smith isn't going to be bad enough, Thomas Allsop was the first Allsop burial in St Ives, with the next not until 1875, and the first Allsop marriage, although both he and Mary were otp, so he may have been born somewhere else. Hopefully he was baptised there (although I'm not hopeful!)

David

The BIVRI (on Ancestry) has a baptism of a Thomas Allsop 31st March 1803 at Haddenham, Cambridgeshire - about 10 miles from St Ives.  Parents John & Aletheia Allsop. 

There's also a Hannah baptised 9 Sep 1805 at Haddenham to the same parents.  The IGI has the marriage of John Alsop & Alethea Law 24 May 1802, Haddenham, Cambridgeshire.

I was briefly tempted, but I don't think it's the right one, as there's a Thomas Allsop born c. 1803 in Haddenham, living in Haddenham on the 1861 census.  Drat!    I can't see any alternatives, though, whether on the IGI, the BVRI or familyhistoryonline.

[met]

I have just discovered this site and your queries about Wiliam PEGG and his wives.  My take on it, developed with a cousin is as follows:


William PEGG

   b   St Ives, Huntingdon/Swavesey, Cambridge, 1806
   m    St Ives, Huntingdon, 1827/8
      June 1840, St Ives 14 264
      March 1853, St Ives 3b 432
   d   September 1874, St Ives 3b 158

William’s date of birth is uncertain -   1806  1795 and 1803.    His place of birth is also uncertain: Swavesey or  St Ives.  
   William married, first, Susan ? (d 1839, St Ives, Huntingdon).  They had seven children: William, Charles, Mary, Susan, Eliza, Levi and Ann.   Wlliam remarried within the year.  His bride was Mary ALLSOP (b 1811, St Ives, Huntingdon), the widow of Thomas? ALLSOP and daughter of ? and Sarah ROBERSON.   Mary brought a child to the marriage and the couple went on to have one child themselves, Edith.  William was widowed again in 1846, when we find his mother-in-law, Sarah ROBERSON, keeping house for him, two of his children and Mary’s daughter, Ann.
   Following the death of Mary, William married a third time.   Sarah TEET (1817-1876, b/d St Ives, Huntingdon) was the widow of James TEET (1816-1851) and the daughter of Samuel COOK.  William and Sarah had two children: Stephen and John.
   William died in 1874, aged 74.


(1) Susan ?

   b   
   m   St Ives, Huntingdon, 1827/28
   d   St Ives, Huntingdon, 3rd quarter 1839   September 1839, St Ives 14 124

Susan and William had seven children: William, Charles, Mary, Susan, Eliza, Levi and Ann.


(2) Mary ALLSOP (née ROBERSON)

   b   St Ives, Huntingdon, 1811
   m   St Ives, Huntingdon, 2nd quarter 1840   June 1840, St Ives 14 264
   d   St Ives, Huntingdon, 4th quarter 1846   December 1846, St Ives 14 264

Mary ROBERSON, daughter of ? and Sarah ROBERSON, and widow of Thomas? ALLSOP (d 1837, St Ives, Huntingdon), married William in 1840.  There was one child, Edith.  Mary died in 1846.


(3) Sarah TEET (née COOK)

   b   St Ives, Huntingdon, 1817
   m   St Ives, Huntingdon, 27 March 1853   March 1853, St Ives 3b 432
   d   St Ives, Huntingdon, 3rd quarter 1876   September 1876, St Ives 3b 165

Sarah and William had two children, Stephen and John.  


From a cursory reading of the mails, I shall need to make some alterations!  In the meantime I look forward to your comments.

Met

[bedfordshire boy]

Hi Met

Welcome to Rootschat!

William Pegg married Susannah Thompson in St Ives in 1825

Cambs FHS has an excellent website at http://www.cfhs.org.uk/Search.html. The baptism index 1801-37 includes William Pegg aged 10 months baptised at Swavesey in 1805, son of Samuel and Sarah. This ties in with his 1840 and 1853 marriage certs obtained by Aulus where his father was named as Samuel.

I'll leave it to Aulus to comment in detail as it's his thread

Regards

David

[Aulus]

Coming back to this rather sheepishly (as I'm ashamed to see I never replied over 12 months ago, ahem!) now I've finally assimilated the results of a few days spent at the Huntingdonshire Records Office.

Let's start with the Sarah Roberson on the 1851 census ...


Sarah Parnwell was the daughter of William & Sarah Parnwell (or Parnel).  William & Sarah also have Elizabeth (1779), Joseph (1783), Mary (1786) and Mary (1789)
bapt. 1 Dec 1784, Elsworth, Cambs.
bur. 11 Apr 1861, St Ives, Hunts

marr (1) to Samuel Pegg 17 Jan 1804, Elsworth, Cambs
     Samuel Pegg's birth and parentage are not known (yet)
     Samuel Pegg is buried at Swavesey, Cambs 14 Dec 1809

Samuel Pegg & Sarah Parnwell had 3 children: William (c. 1805/6 0 27 Jul 1874), Samuel (c. 1809-Jul 1870), John (c. 1808 - Mar 1885)

marr (2) to James Robinson 29 Apr 1812
Nothing so far known about James Robinson, other than that had died before the 1841 census.  There is a James Robinson buried 11 Feb 1822 in St Ives, but he's 69 years old and described as a whitesmith.  That's too old to be Sarah Parnwell's second husband, I think, and anyway the husband is described as a waterman on the two occasions his occupation is recorded (1822 and 1846).

James Robinson and Sarah Parnwell had one child, Mary Anne Robinson, bapt. 4 Oct 1822, St Ives.

Mary Ann Robinson married Charles Bidwell (b. c. 1825, St Neots) on 11 Dec 1846 at St Ives and had two children: Sarah (b. c. 1849) and William (b. Q4 1853).
Sarah Bidwell married William Braisby (b. c. 1849, Melton Mowbray) Q4 1868 in Leicester Registration District. They had 8 children, Mary Ann, Sarah, William H, Alfred, Arthur, Fred, Walter, Florence.

Returning to Sarah Parnwell's children with her first husband, Samuel Pegg:

William Pegg, born 1806-6 Swavesey,  Cambs.  Died 27 Jul 1874, St Ives.
marr (1) Susan Thompson (c.1808-Jul 1839) 11 Jan 1825 at St Ives.
William & Susan had 4 children: William (1829), Mary (1831), Susan (1832), Eliza (1834)

marr (2) Mary Allsop née Smith (c. 1810-26 Oct 1846) 14 Jun 1840 at St Ives
William & Mary had 1 child: Edith Pegg, born 21 Apr 1841.  Not traced her later than 1851.
Mary brought three children from her first marriage to Thomas Allsop (c. 1803-Jul 1837, m. 2 Jul 1827): Charles Smith Allsop (c. 1829); Levi (c. 1835) and Anne R (c. 1836)

marr (3) Sarah Teete née Cook (b. c. 1817) 27 Mar 1853 at St Ives.
William & Sarah had two children: Stephen (c. 1856) and John Henry (Q2 1858).
Sarah had had 5 children with her previous husband, James Teete (they married 28 Jun 1841, St Ives): John William (Oct 1841), Emma (Mar 1844), Eliza (c. 1847), Mary Ann (Nov 1849), Henry (Jan 1851)

I've been able to trace some of the children and stepchildren of William Pegg, but shan't go into all that here!

Thanks again for your input.

[met]

Many thanks for your detailed response.  You have put right several misconceptions and errors!

I have not been idle in the interim myself and offer a few more bits of information.

I think William and Sarah Parnwell (hermaiden name seems to have been BENNET) anothe five children - John (1770), Susannah (1773), William (1775), Sarah (1776-c1882) and John (1778).

I think William and Sarah BRAISBY had nine children - Charles Bidwell (December 1870, Melton Mowbray 7a 238) is the missing one.

I also think Sarah TEETE's husband was James, not William.

I too have details of the subsequent PEGG generations and would be happy to share.

Idle curiousity makes me ask why Florence STEVENSON was the black sheep!

Met

[Aulus]

Thanks Met.

You're absolutely right Sarah Cook's first marriage was to James Teete - slip of the fingers.  I've corrected my post above.

I'll send you a PM with my email details and we can share what we've got.

On Florence, the black sheep, see http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=245161.msg1343182#msg1343182