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** Completed ** Stradford Row
« on: Sunday 28 September 08 23:42 BST (UK) »
My grandfather was born in 1903.
On his birth cert his father's address is given as 8 Stradford Row.
I have found them both at a different address in the 1911 census.
In the 1911 census Stradford Row is listed but only shows No. 6 and No. 7.

I would be very grateful if someone could answere the following questions:

Where is/was Stradford Row?
What happened to No.8 Stradford Row between 1903 and 1911?

Peter.

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Re: Stradford Row
« Reply #1 on: Monday 29 September 08 22:26 BST (UK) »
Hello Peter,
I could find no Stradford Row but did find a Stratford Row.

The 1888 Dublin street index lists Stradford Row off Portland Row.
As of yet I can not explain what happened to no.8

Click the link below and it will take you to Live maps.
Stratford Row was located on Portland Row to Baileys Row.

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=swsf1fggc9t9&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=29507479&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

You can also see information on it's location here
http://www.libraryireland.com/Dublin-Street-Directory-1862/147.php

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Noel Gorman
Dublin, Ire

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Re: Stradford Row
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 30 September 08 01:22 BST (UK) »
Hi Noel,

Many thanks for checking this out.

The link to the libraryireland site certainly puts it in the right area. The 1911 census shows the people I am looking for as living in Buckingham St.

Your link to 1862 lists numbers 1-7 as tenements and consequently no listing of people who lived there.

The mystery deepens! Where is number 8?

I'm beginning to wonder if it might have been a "mews" dwelling. i.e a stable that was roughly converted for human habitation? Although I thought mostly all of those disappeared by 1903.

Maybe tomorrow a ray of light will shine.

Peter.






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Re: Stradford Row
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 30 September 08 08:45 BST (UK) »
On Google maps, Stratford Row is the continuation of Baileys Row running North East. On a Dublin City map of 1850s there only seems to be 5 house numbers on Stratford Row. On this map Baileys Row is written as 'Bailie's Row'

Baileys row is mentioned in connection with the WW2 North Strand bombing in a Dublin City Archives report article at : http://www.dublincity.ie/SiteCollectionDocuments/Public%20Libraries/HertHist/n_strand_bombing_archives.pdf

This report includes reference to photos of the damage and the area.


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Re: Stradford Row
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 30 September 08 10:49 BST (UK) »
Thank you Shane.

Putting together the info from Google Maps, Live Maps and the 19th century directories, a picture is emerging of a "back street" or "lanes" area. This article gives a very good description of what life must have been like there:

http://www.ucd.ie/gsi/pdf/37-1/mews.pdf

The move to the tenement in Buckingham Street was probably a step up in the world, where the house was a solid structure, not surrounded and overshadowed by taller buildings.

I'll let you know if I can track down number 8 but at the moment I'm not hopeful.

Peter.

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Re: Stradford Row
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 30 September 08 11:11 BST (UK) »
Hello Peter,

What number in Buckingham Street did the people you are intrested in live?

Noel

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Re: Stradford Row
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 30 September 08 11:52 BST (UK) »
Hi Noel.

It was number 11. There were 25 people in the house in 8 family units, which seems fairly typical for the area.

Peter.

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Re: Stradford Row
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 30 September 08 14:08 BST (UK) »
Peter,

I don't know if you have them in the 1901 Dublin Census.

James Lawlor 7 Stradford Row

Taken from Dublin City 1901 Census Index to the North Strand, Clonliffe Road and Summerhill District.

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Re: Stradford Row
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 30 September 08 14:12 BST (UK) »
Noel,

Do you have a screen shot of that?

Peter.