kelly's in shotts

[Gracekelly0131]

Thank you. I have a copy of marriage certificate and i can't see a James as the father, it says John and John of death certificate. Where did you see this? TIA

[lud]

Hello,
this information for St Patricks Shotts was gleaned from the FindMyPast website ,and was written in Latin by the parish scribe, here is a transcription of the male names   Joannem Kelly  24 August 1916, Father Joannis Kelly,
mother Rosae Mohan,spouse Mariam Anam Hughes,father Francisci Hughes,mother Annae Daly,
Latin can be a bit confusing 
Good Luck

[sancti]

Hello,
this information for St Patricks Shotts was gleaned from the FindMyPast website ,and was written in Latin by the parish scribe, here is a transcription of the male names   Joannem Kelly  24 August 1916, Father Joannis Kelly,
mother Rosae Mohan,spouse Mariam Anam Hughes,father Francisci Hughes,mother Annae Daly,
Latin can be a bit confusing
Good Luck

I agree, it certainly was for me at high school 50 years ago   

[Forfarian]

Latin can be a bit confusing 

Yes and no It's all extremely logical once you know the rather arcane basic rules.

In the nominative, the given names are Latinised
John -> Joannes
Francis -> Franciscus
Mary -> Maria
Rose/a -> Rosa
Ann(e)/a -> Anna

When you plug them into a Latin sentence you have to alter the endings to conform to the rules of Latin grammar.

In the case of the couple being married, the names go into the accusative
So Joannes -> Joannem
Maria -> Mariam
Anna -> Annam

The parents' names go into the genitive
Joannes -> Joannis
Rosa -> Rosae
Franciscus -> Francisci
Anna -> Annae

I'm very glad that I studied Latin at school (even longer ago than sancti!) because it has been incredibly useful all my life in science, genealogy and foreign languages.

[sancti]

Ecce Romani 

[Gracekelly0131]

Wow, thank you so much!! They stopped Latin classes in 3rd year at my school.

[JLamont]

I am very, very, late arriving at this thread.

I am keen to link up with 'Janettepain' and 'edinburgh86' as I am distantly related to both.

Mary Jane Lamont was my GreatGrandfather's Sister.  His name was John Lamont (1840-1905) and he lived in or near Ballycastle, in North Antrim.  He is buried in Culfeightrin Church, near Ballycastle.

My records indicate that John was born in the Mull of Kintyre while his sisters, Catherine b.1842, Mary Jane b.1847 and Rose Ann b.1847 (?) were born in Airdrie. Another sister, Margaret b.1849 (died 1855), as well as brothers, Daniel b.1852, Francis b.1857 and Bernard b. 1855 were born in Shotts. Some or all died in Omoa Square.

If anyone has anything to add or correct, please let me know.  I think that some of these dates may not be accurate, but have yet to check them on the extensive (and impressive) Scottish resources online.

I will be returning to my study of my Scottish roots shortly; I am currently entangled in another breach of the family.

I would be interested in hearing from anyone with links to Shotts in the years 1840 - 1905.

many thanks.
John

[sancti]

Only one birth for a Francis Lamont c1857

LAMONT
FRANCIS
Mother's name
FLOYD
Male
1858
611 / 126
RICCARTON, Ayrshire

No births for a Bernard Lamont 1855

No deaths for a Margaret 1855

[MonicaL]

There is this possible death for Margaret in 1855:

MARGARET LAMMOND
Age 6
Mother's maiden name DARRACH
1855
Rf 655 / 97
Shotts

Monica