Meshach Williams / Margaret Hussey Burgh

[Selly Oak]

I have just come across Henry and Margaret Williams in researching my family history.  My gg grandmother was Elizabeth Williams the sister of Mesach, born in 1846.

Have you been able to trace the family back to earlier generations before Henry and Margaret?

[Cajondy]

hi - this sounds interesting
I have Henry (ships carpenter - born holyhead)and Margaret as parents for Messach. And the following siblings for Mesach (in this order or birth):
Mary
Robert
Hannah
Margaret
Ann
Hugh
Messach (my gg grandfather)
John
Henry
Elizabeth (your gg grandmother?)
Jane
Richard
Mary
Ellin
Stange there's two x Mary!!

Have you managed to source any further info?
Cajondy

[heywood]

Hello again,

I've just driven myself daft once again looking for Margaet and feel that somewhere on rootschat we have explored more but not sure 

I think, and always have done, that Margaret would be illegitimate- although quite how you could give a surname belonging to a quite (apparently) distinguished family, I'm not sure - rather than Evans/Williams or any other popular Welsh name.
However- looking at suitable census entries for Margaret there is this for Margaret Jones niece.

1851 HO107; Piece: 2508; Folio: 487; Page: 1

now trying to match this family to an 1841 family is not easy- but going off the occupation of 'shopkeeper' for John Jones- there is this one:

1841 HO107; Piece 1402; Book: 15;  Folio: 13; Page: 10

there are a couple of young women in the household who could be the mother of young Margaret.

[Selly Oak]

With regard to Henry and Margaret Williams I have found the following via Family Search IGI for Amlwch:

Marriage Henry Williams and Margaret Jones 24th May 1831.

I looked for Henry Williams in the same  records for Holyhead around 1807 but found nothing. 

[Cajondy]

thanks all - - this one is indeed proving a challenge - had it now for three years and beginning to feel I may have it considerably longer yet....
If you come across anything please drop me a line - I fear I may go old and grey before I find the answers I seek :-(

regards
Cajondy

[cae howell]

I have just started going into my Mother side family history and her grandmother was a margaret Williams from Llanbedrig she had my grandfather at the Amlwch workhouse is that anything to do with your  family?

[taffess]

Hi there, I'm researching the Eames family history, so can't help with Hussey Burgh, but you may not have seen this  1861 RG09 4367 69 P1   Amlwch   Market Square
Marg Hussey Burgh serv. un. 17 dairymaid Denbighshire
Ann Williams visitor m 28 Amlwch Anglesey. Could Ann be a sister to Meshach and found a wife for him. Might be a lead. Good luck 

[wilcoxon]

Some Hussey Burgh`s in North wales.
North Wales Chronicle (Bangor, Wales), Saturday, December 2, 1854;
 Walter Hussey de Burgh esq , Trejorworth , and Miss de Burgh donated to the Bodedern Anglesey Patriotic Fund.

North Wales Chronicle (Bangor, Wales), Saturday, October 25, 1862
Death
16th ins at his residence Wellington  Terrace Caernarvon, Walter Bussey de Burgh esq aged 61.

I know it`s not much but at least there were some in the area.

Looking at 1861 it seems that Walter has been married before, Some of the children are much too old to be Elizabeths. There is a connection with Anglesey.

1861 RG9; Piece: 4342; Folio: 84; Page: 9
Wellington Terrace Caernarvon.
Walter Hussey De Burgh 59 landed proprieter b Dublin
Elizabeth H De Burgh 27  wife  b Llanfachreth
Victoria D De Burgh 20 dau b Ireland
Albert E W De Burgh 19 son b Russia  British subject
Fanny H De Burgh 16 dau b Ireland
Hessie E H De Burgh 15 b "
Gertrude F A De Burgh 12 b Caernarvon
Ulysses H De Burgh 10 b Llanbedlig
Gwenellen G De Burgh 8 b "
Alexander A De Burgh 6 b  Anglesey Triorworth
Helena L De Burgh 4 b Caernarvon
Ellen Grey 50 servant b Panton Anglesey.

[taffess]

Hi All,  Could there be a family connection between Ulyses Hubert Burgh born 1850 Caernarvon and Ulysses(Baron Downs) Burgh married 1846 St. Geo Han Sq and the Hussey family (descended from Earls) in county Kerry?