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Offline deb usa

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Re: scamp family
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 10 October 10 18:18 BST (UK) »
Hi zozo

I see Patience with her family in 1901 ...do you have that info?
Cannot see the family in 1891, yet.

Can you tell us when and where Noah and Jack were born. Where were they all living in 1911? What details do you have regarding Patience?

Any other details that you have may help us find them.

deb :)

SNAP! Catone ....thanks for posting the 1901 :)
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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« Reply #10 on: Sunday 10 October 10 18:42 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I too have Romany ancestors and I have received lots of help from the Romanygenes site http://romanygenes.webeden.co.uk/#/scamp-family/4528685510.  Lots of Scamp info here as well as photographes.  You can contact the authors with your queries and they are excellent at helping you out. 

Hope this helps

Shelly
London: Bergin, Widdicks, Clark/e, Hiscoke, Collins
Devon:  Dyer, Bennett, Coysh, Burnett
Dorset:  Trevelyan
Lancashire:  Welsby, Parr, Forshaw, Molyneux
Buckinghamshire:  Poleykett

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« Reply #11 on: Sunday 10 October 10 19:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Shelly and Debs
Thanks for your prompt reply - tried the link you gave me several times but the page is not opening. Yes we have found Patience in 1901  listed with her parents Sidney J Scamp b 1860 in Gravesend and her brothers Gilderoy b 1883, Riley b 1885 and Noah b 1889.
We have no proof that the Patience who married John Eastwood b 1886 is Patience Scamp apart from the details match. Her birth place is copythorne, new forest  (3 miles from patience Scamp birthplace in 1901) and the years match of her birth. So based on a hunch and they are both travelling families
Jack was born 1907 and Noah 1910 in Ash, Farnham Surrey. We have also found Patience and John with their two sons in 1911 at a caravan nr Canister Cottage, PLumpton, Lewes, Sussex
mills, eastwood, eastwood holmes, sussex. Foreman, eastwood, mills kent

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« Reply #12 on: Sunday 10 October 10 22:40 BST (UK) »
oh sorry about that lets try again
http://romanygenes.webeden.co.uk


I hope that one works.

Shelly
London: Bergin, Widdicks, Clark/e, Hiscoke, Collins
Devon:  Dyer, Bennett, Coysh, Burnett
Dorset:  Trevelyan
Lancashire:  Welsby, Parr, Forshaw, Molyneux
Buckinghamshire:  Poleykett


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« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 19 October 10 12:55 BST (UK) »
these are in my family line.if you want to know more about any of them let me know.i am also in touch with living today scamp descendants of these but cant mention living folks names biut could get more info for you.
1.  SCAMP, Ada (b.1891)
2.  SCAMP, Clara Matthews (b.1857)
3.  SCAMP, Ernest (b.1885)
4.  SCAMP, George (b.1883)
5.  SCAMP, Gildaroy (1810 - 1893)
6.  SCAMP, Gilderoy (b.1861)
7.  SCAMP, Gilderoy (b.1881)
8.  SCAMP, John (b.1802)
9.  SCAMP, Sidney (b.1889)
10.  SCAMP, Soloman (b.1893)

they were all travellers around kent.
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« Reply #14 on: Thursday 29 December 11 13:21 GMT (UK) »
hello all,

I am a distant scamp.

My grandad was son to Clara Scamp, she was daughter to Isabella (or Isabell) Scamp, and she was daughter to Samuel Scamp and Faith Gains.

Samuel and Faith had 2 sons die in the First World War, one is buried in Canterbury Cemetery and the other has no known grave.

Isabella had Clara at 16, we have no idea who the father is, she also had another daughter.

It would be great if any relations to these scamps could get in touch, there is quite a lot of them dotted around i think.  We should have a scamp Reunion.

Peace and hugs

Rachel.

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« Reply #15 on: Thursday 29 December 11 13:55 GMT (UK) »
i will get in touch with my friend who is also a descendant and see if she will contact you.
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« Reply #16 on: Sunday 05 February 12 16:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi there
My Grandfather was the son of Isabel Scamp (daughter of Samuel and Faith) he had 9 siblings and 1 half sibling. To our knowledge Clara was not Isabel's Daughter.

Rachel if you would like to message me maybe I could pass on what I know :)
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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 05 December 12 22:07 GMT (UK) »
Hopefully someone will pick this up. I requested a birth certificate of my great grandmothers brother Eddie Lee and found that his mother was Sabina Scamp. The only Sabina Scamp I can find was born in 1892, Seasalter Kent which sounds about right.. except it would make her 14 when she had her son.

So far I have found out that Sabina's parents were George Scamp b. 1872 Canterbury and Isabella. George's parents were Samson/Samuel and Faith.

Does anyone have any information on Sabina? She must have died young as she suddenly disappears after 1906 when Eddie is born...

She may or may not have married Ernest Lee (Eddie's father).