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alex kirkpatrick
« on: Friday 10 October 08 20:51 BST (UK) »
I am looking for death cerificates of any of the following.Elizabeth Gray ,Andrew Gray, or Alex Kirkpatrick born1880, 1880, and 1906 in that order . They all emigrated to canada in 1913 and i can get no info since they boarded the ship bound for ST. Johns N.B. They may have moved to another area as i have searched N.B. with no results

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Re: alex kirkpatrick
« Reply #1 on: Friday 10 October 08 21:11 BST (UK) »
Hi Trena

Is this a parents and a child family group?
Where were they born?

Does the manifest say they are going to anyone in particular in Canada ar anywhere in particular in NB?

Did Andrew enlist in CEF during WW1:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/index-e.html

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Re: alex kirkpatrick
« Reply #2 on: Friday 10 October 08 21:24 BST (UK) »
IT IS A FAMILY GROUP BUT ALEX IS ANDREWS STEPSON. they were all born in scotland and the ship they sailed on was the letitia which left glasgow on 4th april 1913. i only know this from the passenger list . they were my husband s grandparents. . i can find no trace and uncle. his father never heard from them again so we do not know where they were heading after they got to Canada

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« Reply #3 on: Friday 10 October 08 22:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Trena

I can't get all the details - but i can see:
Andrew GRAY, Elizabeth GRAY, Alex GRAY on ship Letitia arrived in St Johns Newfoundland in 1913, having departed Glasgow.

Do you have a copy of the actual manifest?

They may have also landed in US then made directly for the US.
In which case there could be a Canadian to US Border crossing for them. ANd Andrew may have in that case, been WW1 drafted in the US.  Where in Scotland where they born and from - this may help anyone to recognise them in Canadian or US records?

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Re: alex kirkpatrick
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 11 October 08 00:43 BST (UK) »
The original manifest states their destination as Toronto.
Ironside, Adie, Wilson, Park, Ferrier, Gray, Tennant
Robb, Hardie, Clark, Johnston, Harper, Elmslie, Watt

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Re: alex kirkpatrick
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 11 October 08 10:54 BST (UK) »
HI Ambly
 ELlizabeth was born in the parish of Hamilton Scotland on 12/02/1880. Dont know much obout Andrew except his parent names were Robert and Helen. Alex was born in Lochrighead,dumfriess-shire on 1/12/1906. He was Andrews stepson so he could easily have changed his name after leaving Scotland..You ask about manifesto all it has is they are bound for St. John.N.B. and country of intended permenant residence is Canada. What is the date of your passenger list. it sounds like them I am excited
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Re: alex kirkpatrick
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 11 October 08 15:48 BST (UK) »
ambly
 How do you know they were heading for Toronto

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 11 October 08 17:43 BST (UK) »
The original ship manifest which Ambly refers to states their destination as Toronto, Ontario.  Karen
Ironside, Adie, Wilson, Park, Ferrier, Gray, Tennant
Robb, Hardie, Clark, Johnston, Harper, Elmslie, Watt

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Re: alex kirkpatrick
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 11 October 08 18:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Trena

I have just had a look at the ship's manifest for the 1913 voyage on the Leticia.From the information given re Andrew Grey it looks as if he had lived in Canada previously.

Andrew Gray, 33, Married, born Scotland,
Post Office destination - Toronto, Ontario
Occupation in country of origin - Railway man
Intended occupation in Canada - Farming
Have you ever visited Canada before - Yes
If so - where (difficult to read )
how long - 20 years
when - no entry

I hope to have attached  the difficult to read bit in the hopes that someone else can decipher it :)

Nell
Kitching Elsbury Lawrence Last Ellington Govier Pawsey Rice Nevitt Napier Seymour


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