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Offline Aussie Roy

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Langstroth, New Brunswick
« on: Saturday 11 October 08 10:46 BST (UK) »
I need one generation to connect my wife Barbara to Dawn Langstroth    http://www.dawnlangstroth.com/  I have....... William Langstroth b.1464, Cosh, Arncliffe, Yorkshire, England...............  Williiam Langstroth b. 1858 -1933 married Helena Gertrude Smith 1860-1946   { ....................}.........William Langstroth ? New Brunswick
 Willam, known as Bill is still living, but he is in the public domain as a TV producer and former husband of well known singer Anne Murray.  I need Bill's parents who have passed away. Any info ?   Roy
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Re: Langstroth, New Brunswick
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 12 October 08 01:52 BST (UK) »
Hi Aussie Roy,

According to the Canadian Census For William & Helena Langstroth:

1891: One daughter:  Fannie S Langstroth, Age 4
1901: One daughter:  Fanny Langstroth Age 14, Birth Date: 9 Aug 1887
          One son:  Cecil Langstroth Age 4, Birth Date: 2 May 1896
          William:  Birth Date: 15 Dec 1854
          Helena:  Birth Date: 7 Jan 1864
1911: One Son:  Cecil Langstroth Age 15

All three census were from Hampton sub-district, Kings District, New Brunswick 
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Cecil fought in WW1:
Cecil Craven Langstroth
Hampton, New Brunswick 
Birth: 2 May 1896
Birth Location: Hampton, Kings CO, New Brunswick 
Relative: Wm Langstroth
Relationship: Father 
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RS141B7:  Index to New Brunswick Marriages

Name LANGSTROTH, CECIL CRAVEN 
Married SCRIBNER, M LOUISE 
Date 1925 | 06 | 20  (Y-M-D) 
County KINGS 
Parish HAMPTON
Number 3034
Reference B4/1925
Microfilm F19688

Name EASTMAN, ARTHUR HENRY 
Married LANGSTROTH, FANNY STEEVES  (I suspect this is the sister) 
Date 1922 | 08 | 15  (Y-M-D) 
County KINGS 
Parish HAMPTON
Number 1331
Reference B4/1922
Microfilm F19681
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RS141C5:  Index to Death Certificates

Name LANGSTROTH, WILLIAM  (Father of Cecil?) 
Sex M
Date 1933 | 10 | 10  (Y-M-D) 
County KINGS 
Registration 65148 
Volume 065
Microfilm F18968

Name LANGSTROTH, HELENE G.  (Mother of Cecil?) 
Sex F
Date 1946 | 11 | 30  (Y-M-D) 
County KINGS 
Registration 4978 
Volume 175
Microfilm F19579

I can't say for sure if this is your man (Cecil) but it may point you in the right direction.

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Re: Langstroth, New Brunswick
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 12 October 08 02:39 BST (UK) »
Thanks atth2o  I had found the censuses and war record of Cecil on ancestry.com, but no marriage. As there is no other son of William and Helene , he's got to be the one. Now that I have his wife the generations are complete, except for dates.

           Cecil Craven Langstroth  1896-    ?
           married 20th June 1925
           Louise M. Scribner  .... - ....

And I don't have Bill's DOB.  From photos he looks a bit older than Anne Murray b. 1945, so about 1930 ish.
Getting there gradually.    Roy
         
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Re: Langstroth, New Brunswick
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 12 October 08 03:27 BST (UK) »
awe!!!!!!!!  Don Messer's Jubilee! ...small town t.v. wasn't very exciting...but I loved that show  ;D

http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~downhome/donmesser.html

I imagine Craven Langstroth, N.B. pioneer would have been related
http://www.nbgs.ca/firstfamilies/INDEX-L-2006.pdf

I imagine you have this, but here's the images...from 1881 census of the three Cravens...
William Sr. and your Jr mentioned above,  on page http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/e/e326/e008130932.pdf
and Craven Sr. next door with Frances ( Betts)
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/e/e326/e008130933.pdf

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Re: Langstroth, New Brunswick
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 12 October 08 03:38 BST (UK) »
Yorkshire Ballads....http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wakefield/original_tales_ballads.html
mentions John Langstroth and the "craven" dialect... ;D

another celeb:
Betts, Craven Langstroth, 1935-1940 (3 letters)
http://diglib.princeton.edu/ead/eadGetDoc.xq?id=/ead/mss/C0172.EAD.xml
http://www.canadiana.org/cgi-bin/ECO/mtq?doc=09072

http://travelingluck.com/North%20America/Canada/New+Brunswick/_6049482_Langstroth+Brook.html#local_map

Index to probate records:
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nbkings/V-S/ki-3.html

William & Helena ( mistrancribed)  interred here;
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nbkings/Hamp/ki-d03.html
Scribners also on page...

Interesting reading for you... re: Craven Calverley
http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.calverley/23.1.1/mb.ashx
http://www.oldsaintjohn.com/art6.htm

http://www.rootschat.com/links/04i9/
here's a transcription of above  http://anglican.nb.ca/admin/regulations/0712_boundries.pdf


Cecil, an inventor? CONVERTIBLE CRAWLER SHOVELS AND LIKE MACHINES   
Craven, Langstroth Cecil. Publication Date:. 06/28/1960
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/2942559.html
Name written properly here, so it's the right fellow...Canadian patent #CA610503   
http://www.wikipatents.com/ca/0610503.html
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Re: Langstroth, New Brunswick
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 12 October 08 07:27 BST (UK) »
WOW!!! JJ That'll keep me busy for a while.   
Cecil must have been a wealthy man.  Meanwhile back in Yorkshire Isabella Langstroth 1807 - 1882 married a farmer Robert Charnley. Their son Richard Charnley 1847 - 1906 ended his days in Settle workhouse, the poorest of the poor. That's my wife's side
 
   
 
 
     
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Re: Langstroth, New Brunswick
« Reply #6 on: Monday 13 October 08 05:03 BST (UK) »
 ;) Hi, Aussie... I guess it depends if the contraption sold or not...so he may not have made a penny from it....

& Hello, Nancy, by the way!  ;D J.J.
 
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Re: Langstroth, New Brunswick
« Reply #7 on: Monday 13 October 08 15:52 BST (UK) »
Hi Aussie Roy,

I took another look through the archives to see if I could fill in those dates for you without luck.

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Cecil Craven Langstroth  1896-    ?
           married 20th June 1925
           Louise M. Scribner  .... - ....

I couldn't even pinpoint Louise on the census.  She was probably using her first name on the census (The "M" in her name).  If you want more information, you can always send away for the record:

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Getting a Copy
A copy can be acquired by sending a full mailing address, a full reference of the file, $8.00 per record up to 10 pages ($1.00 for each additional page per record)

Provincial Archives of New Brunswick
P. O. Box 6000
Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada
E3B 5H1.

Hope that helps,

Nancy

(Hi J.J.  As you can see I dip my foot in here once in a while to give some help.)
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Re: Langstroth, New Brunswick
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 15 October 08 02:59 BST (UK) »
Thanks you two. The response was fantastic. All I need now is a few dates which I'm sure will turn up. Turning my attention now to another branch in Pennsylvania where the name got changed to Longstreth and spread to Maryland, Ohio,  Utah, to mention a few states
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